flapper installation

[EK JAY]

hi
there has been alot of talk about flappers on the site
so i thought id post up the process of putting them on
yourself here is how i put mine on

first take wheel off the car and let all the air out of the
tyre



then once all the air is out of the tyre push around the edge
of the tyre near the rim this will brake the bead (seal) of the tyre


then get the flapper and sit it on the tyre and push the inner edge
of the flapper into the bead or seal you have just broken




it should go in fairly easy once you get started
do this all the way around the rim



once its in fill the tyre up with air slowly checking that the flapper
is even all the way around



and there you go you just saved yourself about $20 to $25 Because
this is what they charge at a tyre shop just to fit them up
ek jay

[(AUST)Mod]

Do you need to get the wheels balanced after installation?

[EK JAY]

i havent yet and there is no weights on my rims
and she is smooth as at all speeds 60 100 110 km
i think you can get the weights when balanced put
on the inside of the back of the rim

[Smooth customs]

I spoke to a guy who had his car defected for not complying to regulations on fitting Flappers a few years ago.

When fitted the tyres must have tubes installed, as the Flapper "may" cause the bead of the tyre to break under cornering and possibly cause an accidient.
If so the owner is responsable for any damages caused.
Insurance companies can wipe your cover for the same reason.

I checked on this after being told and both the registration department and an insurance rep confirmed it.

[EK JAY]

ok so those who have flappers make sure you put tubes
in your tyres before you put the flappers on sounds like there
grasping at straws with that one smooth customs

[Smooth customs]

Check with your local rego branch, and insurance company. But that is what I was told.

Another gripe was how the outer edges of some makes of Flappers cut into the side walls of the tyre. And can make the tyre unroadworthy.

[FB MAD]

The insurance companies are as nice as pie to you when they want your money but will try every means possible to evade paying you should you need to make a claim.

[mrs ratbox]

i've had them cut into tyres pretty scary, they aren't supposed to be fitted to radial tyres, i've also been told but not confirmed that the cut in white walls will wipe yor insurance
lets face it just about anything we do to our cars will screw up the insurance cause they will look for the tiniest discrepency to save a buck

[Smooth customs]

The main reason some things are either not allowed or have special requirements is related to previous failures.

How would you feel if because of your belief that all these regs were just there to piss you off. So you just did what you wanted. And a failure occured, it could just be a nast shock causing some minor damage to your car. Or someone could be injured or even killed.

But what if someone else did this and inflicted the end result on you or a member of your family. I bet there would be a totally different attitude to them personally and what they had irresponcibly done.

Of course insurance companies can be tough, and we agree to their terms when a policy is taken out. If something happens and you have honoured your part of the contract they pay up. but dud them and they can cancel the policy and if they are pissed off enough the law is on their side and the policy holder can be charged with several offences

[J]

should always get ur wheels balanced after breaking the bead,

unless u mark with chalk on the tyre where the valve is and put the tyre on in the exact same spot.

[Devilrod]

Any form of cutting into a sidewall of a tyre actually lowers the speed rating of the tyre as it weakens it. Bit like the painted on red/whitewall treatment, the grooving lowers the speed rating. Technically wouldn't pass a roadworthy inspection if they were going by the book 100%.

[hammondo]

I wonder if you had an insurance claim refused for something like this, would the insurance company pay back all your premiums seeing as you were technically uninsured?

[Smooth customs]

NO WAY

But you can be charged with insurance fraud, that is a criminal offence and you can be fined and or imprisoned for trying to claim against something that is not legally allowed.

If another party is involved and they have suffered injury or damage to their property you are responsible for all costs. And the police can charge you with several offences based on the motor traffic act of whatever state you are in

Taken seperatly or combined it can get very expensive personally, because you wanted to save a few dollars and not comply with known safety and registration requirements.

[Trev]

I wonder if you had an insurance claim refused for something like this, would the insurance company pay back all your premiums seeing as you were technically uninsured?

I got knocked back on motor bike insurance, they recon they wouldn't have insured me if they new about all my speeding fines , $10000 down the drain, but I did claim my $1000 insurance payment back, Trev .