Keyphos or whatever it's called?

vmx-mxr · Post by **vmx-mxr** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:47 pm

If there are any painters out there do you know of an etch product called "keyphos" or something that sounds like it?

It is a clear etch and stabiliser - I have a bike frame here that was sprayed over with it after blasting 8 years ago and it is still in remarkable shape without so much as a coat of primer !!!

Any leads would be helpful

Dave Mac

EKjimmy · Post by **EKjimmy** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:31 pm

BARE METAL PAINTJOB HERE I COME!

parisian62 · Post by **parisian62** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:08 am

Hi Dave,

Disclaimer - I'm not a painter but this is my limited knowledge about keyphos

When I had Old Timer bead blasted at Austec Dry Stripping they put a coat of keyphos on...

http://www.fbekholden.com/forum/viewtop ... c&start=45

I did some 'research' on it a few years back and will see if I can dig up any details tonight.

Stewart

mrs ratbox · Post by **mrs ratbox** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:58 am

sounds like stuff i got of a mate years ago that worked at a chemical plant they used to sell it to metal producers like BHP to coat the steal after production

bootlegger · Post by **bootlegger** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:15 pm

I restored a 49 Riley roadster a few years ago and it had been metal stripped and coated with something. I had hell getting anything to stick to the metal no matter how hard I tried to clean it off.
I ended up getting the whole things sandblasted.
Im not sure if it was the product you are asking about just my experience.

parisian62 · Post by **parisian62** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:41 pm

Hmm...I'm not much help..came up with nothing. sorry.

vmx-mxr · Post by **vmx-mxr** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:39 pm

Stewart

That looks like the stuff, the way the runs sit etc. The guy who did my stuff claimed it to be an excellent etch base and the paint did stick.

I'll give Austek a try and see if they have more info

Thanks guys - as always everyone is very helpful, and yeah Jimmy - it is going back to bare metal !!!

Cheers

Dave Mac

Stygian · Post by **Stygian** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:34 am

bootlegger wrote:I restored a 49 Riley roadster a few years ago...

You are kidding me Dave!

I'm hoping my father's 49 Riley Roadster will be my next car project...

bootlegger · Post by **bootlegger** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:27 pm

Edna Blueflash wrote:
bootlegger wrote:I restored a 49 Riley roadster a few years ago...
You are kidding me Dave! I'm hoping my father's 49 Riley Roadster will be my next car project...

I restored it for customer a few years ago. He hasnt finished it. I dont think it will ever hit the road. Im quoting a 48 Straight 8 Alfa coupe at the moment.
Not really sure if I want to take it on. Full restos for other people really wear me down.

oldnek · Post by **oldnek** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:26 am

Hi Dave.

Keyphos was used in early power coating applications (Phosphate Keying Etch) Where you can blast the piece of work and spray the Keyphos on without further prep, in order for parts to be powder coated at a later date, without rusting.
I don't believe that normal Acrylics/Enamels can adhere to the keyphos etch, without further applications of a primer base.
In saying that keyphos was good to put down before applying body fillers.

I'm not sure if you can lay that product down before or over new painting systems as I haven't heard of the product for years, So maybe it's even trading under a different name.

John