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loose horn bar

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could someone please tell me if a worn horn spring (the concave one with holes in it) would make the horn bar rattle my one is nearly flat.
looking at other posts everything else is there it just doesn't tighten up when 3 screws are tightened.
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I manage to do this every time I put the horn back in... Are you sure the steel spring and Bakelite spacer have not been swapped in the wrong order?
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Perhaps this might help...
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Also, the three spacers which set the horn ring clearance come in different lengths and are colour-coded to identify the length.

0.299"-0.303"-red
0.305"-0.309"-black/blue
0.311"-0.315"-brown
0.323"-0.327"-green

As you can see, the variations are less than 10 thou. It means there's a fine line between a loose ring and too close.
You may have to resort to gently filing your spacers as required, or conversely shimming them with appropriate sized thin washers.
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thanks for the help problem solved
the problem turned out to be horn spring was in the wrong way, now horn works and doesn't rattle about
I reckon it must have in the wrong since previous owner put in blinker switch in 2008 that was when he bought one according to receipt found in box in car.
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Excellent. Sounds like you're well on the way to getting to know your EK.
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col wrote:thanks for the help problem solved
the problem turned out to be horn spring was in the wrong way, now horn works and doesn't rattle about
I reckon it must have in the wrong since previous owner put in blinker switch in 2008 that was when he bought one according to receipt found in box in car.
What's the right way around ????
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The dish spring should sit with the centre of the concave away from the wheel. The outer edge of the spring should sit nicely into the Bakelite edge in the wheel hub. Basically there should be no metal on metal contact until the spring is pressed down on by the round Bakelite washer with 3 cut outs in it. Once the spring is flattened when pressed on, the surfaces close to the centre touch on the steering wheel hub and short the earth return from the horns to chassis earth.
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I have set my horn up to blow when I put the gear stick into "park".
Don't ask me how I did that :roll: :? .
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Craig Allardyce wrote:The dish spring should sit with the centre of the concave away from the wheel. The outer edge of the spring should sit nicely into the Bakelite edge in the wheel hub. Basically there should be no metal on metal contact until the spring is pressed down on by the round Bakelite washer with 3 cut outs in it. Once the spring is flattened when pressed on, the surfaces close to the centre touch on the steering wheel hub and short the earth return from the horns to chassis earth.
Thanks Craig.
Such a simple thing and yet it makes such a huge difference.
I had my disc spring in upside down also. :oops: :oops:
Feels great now that I swapped it over.

But I think I still have something wrong...
It doesn't go off when I put it in Park.
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Silly me. :roll:
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