Andrew's EK ute- V6, chassis kit etc- Canberra

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Andrew's EK ute- V6, chassis kit etc- Canberra

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Gday all, my name is Andrew and I thought i'd put up some pics and info of my EK ute.

1961 EK ute- originally sold through Walla Walla Motors (D.E, Lieschke and Son), which is still a Holden Dealership to this day in south-western NSW. According to the rego stickers and paperwork on the ute she last ran out of rego on January 1981, (when I was three months old!), so she only ever saw the road for 20 years, the last 30+ have been spent in the previous owner's and my own garage. My parents bought her for me for my 18th birthday, complete with original grey motor, diff and three speed, all of which made its way into my brother's EK due to mechnical failures.. because it was my daily driver and, um, i had no real mechanical sympathy... :wink:

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When we bought her she was in grey undercoat, but after some small body ding repairs Dad and a mate blew a couple of coats of &*#@'s Glacier Blue over her. This was only ever going to be a stopgap- we're looking to strip her back properly, do a few more repairs and I've been thinking about a few silvers, basically anything but blue to be honest.

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So the original plan was to build her up to run a buick V6 which 10 years ago would have been pretty cool, nowadays its fairly commonplace, and due to a host of reasons my build on the ute stalled. We installed a CRS chassis kit, trans tunnel hump, custom sump and power steering deletion pulley, and V6 conversions supplied all the EK specific engine loom, speedo convertor and couple of other things (i'll have to go through my box of bits again...). Dad built and installed the HR front end, with a torana rack and pinion setup on the front of the crossmember, and we used torana stub axles and a mix of bearings to allow us to run VN discs. A touch of light machining and the calipers went right on as well :) I think CRS does a setup similar to this now- Dad sorted this about 10 years ago... We've also chucked in the VN steering column and auto pedal box, I'm still amazed at how these two items just bolted in with damn near no modifications. And the booster went on easy as pie with a couple of alloy plates behind it to mate to the firewall. I also had the original radiator re-cored to a late model fin setup to replace the stock one that wouldnt have cooled anything bigger than the 138.

I also have a complete rubber kit for the windows and doors, a repro hoodlining, a custom stitched carpet to clear the tran tunnel and some mint NOS door trim cards that have never been covered. Basically everything i need to deck the interior out... oh and a resprung bench seat that just needs some recovering. Right now the majority of these bits are packed away in plastic tubs in the garage, waiting for when the time is right...

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So yeah, thats where I'm at now, however its been a good 8 or so years since I've done anything with her, and I've been pretty close to selling her in that time, so now that i've got the marriage/kids/house thing all checked off its time to get her finished. As the wife's El Camino is more of a long term project (rust repairs, dash conversion then big block) we thought it might be best to get the EK going first, and to that end i've decided to actually ditch the V6 and go back to a straight 6 holden :esurprised: :esurprised: :esurprised:

The reason is that i can drop a 202 and trimatic straight in and have it wired up and running within a week, and driving around with brand new suspension and commodore brakes is going to be pretty good. That, and I'll end up building a new motor to suit the Raptor centrifugal blower i pinched off the wife's VS ute- got a few bits of holden 6 speed gear hidden away... Will definately have to have it all engineered, but there's no huge emissions hassles or EFI plumbing to contend with this way, and I can offload the V6 gear if i need the money. In fact, being in canberra, It'll have to be engineered, but I still expect hassles. ACT rego = bane of my existence.

Anyhow, i'm gonna wrap this up, its gone way too long! Comments and feedback most appreciated, hope you like :)

Oh look, more photos...

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nice ute andrew, i grew up in walla walla and own a lh Torana that was purchased new at leishke motors, apparently the old guy that owns the dealership has one of every holden model up until they started commodores.. Good luck with the project
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Welcome to the Forum Andrew. It's funny how plans can change over the years. The 202 sounds like the go.

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Thanks for the warm welcome guys, i'm looking to being on here a lot more as my build progresses...

Also, here's a few shots of my old ute- originally had NSW plates THE-OOT, and was owned by John Graham here in the ACT. I chucked on my EK-062 plates when i got the rego changed, she was a pretty strong little grey motor setup, after i got it retuned it made 118rwhp on the dyno (epic for a grey!) and quickly killed the original diff-, we replaced it with an EH one instead. Sold it to a bloke from Queensland a while after, she had a fair bit of rust that I wasnt in a position to fix at the time. Still miss her a lot, such a beautiful little ute.

FB-EK nats 2004, Nowra NSW.
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Summernats 2005
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With a mate's 202/glide EK sedan and my brother's Calais.
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Nice to see you are getting stuck back into the ute.
Will be good once we have both of the Ek's up and running :)
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VS355 wrote:Nice to see you are getting stuck back into the ute.
Will be good once we have both of the Ek's up and running :)
VS335 ... where have ou been? nice to see you again on the forum! How is the EK 215 coming along?

Apologies Andrew for typing off topic! The ute is coming along great!

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It's been slow going with the 215, hopefully it will be running by the end of the year. Have both my brothers Ute and my Ek driving by the end of the year is the ultimate goal :)
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good idea Andrew 202's are a good motor,drop it in and start cruzin,great to see
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So I'm officially on the hunt for a 202- red, blue or black I'm not fussed at this point. Will eventually look for a blue or black due to the better head and crank/rods for a boosted setup. Also, fortunately (or unfortunately??) my VN turbo just gave up the ghost, so it'll donate it's full manual 600hp capable TH700 to the ute, and I can possibly get some decent coin for the turbo setup that's on it that'll help get the ute progressed. As with all my hobbies, something must be sold to make cash available...

The ute comes home to my place soon, and I hope to get an engineer out to look at the mods so far, I need to be happy it'll go over ACT rego once it's all done- they are notorious for ignoring engineering reports and just telling people, 'no, that's wrong'. For example, we took the wifes El Camino over to get passed, and they knocked it back due to the wheels on it altering the stock track width too much, even though it was engineered with those wheels and had been registered and driving in NSW like that for 15 years. We then sourced brand new steel repro Chev rally wheels (like camaros had) which were basically chev OE fitment, and were neutral offset. They then still refused to pass it, stating that they didn't know what the track width specs should be, and therefore we had to find out!! So, we spent almost a grand in new wheels and tyres (load rated as well- as they demanded..) and they then tell us that they had no idea, just that it's wrong until we come up with specs... Gah!!! Anyhow, I'll end this little rant...

On a slightly related note, been throwing ideas around with my brother (vs-355) about his two EKs, suffice to say I might hang on to the collection of blowers and turbos I have here... Just in case...
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Okay, so i've picked up a VK calais for the EFI 202 and Trimatic, car is a roller minus fuel tank, interior and a few other bits :thumbsup: .

I figure as the diff, chassis kit, front brakes and steering rack conversion will need engineering I might as well just make the damn thing EFI as well. Not sure though on how easy to hook it all up will be.... but I dont really want to just throw a carby on it.

As far as I can work out I'll need to run a return line back to the tank, and an ULP filler neck restrictor, and retain all the OEM pollution stuff like charcoal canister, cat convertor etc. Has anyone on here written up a definitive 'how to' on installing one of these engines into an early girl? From what I gather the engine management on these things is a fuel-only Bosch computer? I might be wrong though!!
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there's been a few some like them but are still fiddling with them one got yanked after a while in favour of a V6, holden didn't even like them :lol:
i have a couple of mates that had them in early holdens and hated them, spewed that they went to the trouble and end up replacing the injection with a carby before replacing the 6 with V8s
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Yeah in bog standard form they aren't the greatest, but I'm mainly doing it so I have a good basis for a turbo setup later- the EFI manifold, 12 port head, crank and rods are what im after for the rebuild, I'll also convert to a MAP setup with an aftermarket ecu.

Should go okay with my built T700 behind it and some 3.45 gears :)
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And now for something different altogether... I've found a smallblock chev, so thats going in instead! :vecctor:

I was going to have to move the engine mounts anyways so this is no big deal, from what I believe I'll need HK/T/G mounts and have to fab up some pedestals from box steel or similar. And get hold of some CRS headers as well. Maybe I can get some $$ for the brand new CRS V6 headers that I never used.... that'd be nice!

Does anyone know if I need to cut a notch/recess into the HR crossmember to get the engine sitting low enough, and what sump to use? CRS supposedly has a sump to suit but I dont wanna pay almost $700 for it, thats insane.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated...

Andrew :)
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as per the other thread i've done 2 308 conversions both times just used HQ sump and no cut out recess in crossmember and after looking at a few others on the weekend my motors sat atleast 11/2" - 2" lower that the hadfield setups, so if if a HQ sump works with a 308 i can't see why it wouldn't work on a 307 and same goes for cross member if my motor can sit 2" lower with no recess in cross member can't see why it needs to be there
i'm actually pretty sure i was told the recess is a saftey thing not a clearance thing it's so the engine goes up and over the cross member in an accident
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Safety reason- yep thats what i heard as well Mick, but we'll see what the engineer says I suppose. CRS did say (i called them today) that when they cut the notch out of the crossmember they actually install large gussets and stuff internally while its all open, to beef up the internal strength. They also told me that they could send me some thick steel rod, bent to shape, to stitch weld in along the edges of the lower control arms- the uppers they said would be fine though. Aside from that, they'd also do the engine mounts, and they said they are currently developing extractors to run down beside the motor as well, which should be ready soonish :half: :half: :half:
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