hello everbody! i wanna pick ur brains for a bit.
iv recently bought a vn 5L, t700 and lsd diff, still in the car. i bought the whole car.
what im wondering is:
1. as far as i am aware, i dont need this to be engeneirred for this conversion, im in nsw. dont i just need a blue slip??
2. iv got disk breaks on the front of my hg, will that be enough??
3. the guy also has a gearbox crossmember and a speedo cable to suit hk, will these still fit the hg?? (i cant see why not)
4. the vn has extractors, will i be able to use them in the hg??
ummm...thats it for now.
if i think of more i will ask
any help is much appreaciated
aidan...
injected 5L in to hg
injected 5L in to hg
i'll get there....
Hi Aidan 
i had a chat to a engineer the other day about the 5lt conv
and he told me that disk brake front and
drum rear is fine as long as it passes the brake
test
im looking for a whole car 5lt conv at the moment
how much did you pay for your commodore
and how
many km on it if you dont mind me asking .
i looked at a vp the other day for 1500 and it wasnt that
good to many parts missing of the motor and brakes
i had a chat to a engineer the other day about the 5lt conv
and he told me that disk brake front and
drum rear is fine as long as it passes the brake
test
im looking for a whole car 5lt conv at the moment
how much did you pay for your commodore
and howmany km on it if you dont mind me asking .
i looked at a vp the other day for 1500 and it wasnt that
good to many parts missing of the motor and brakes
EK JAY SINCE 1990
i paid $1000....its got 237,000....on the dial....genuine or not im not sure but thats what is says.
the gear box slipps a bit, but i dont care. i seen it come up on another forum this morning...luckyly enough it was only 10 min from my house went and had a look, took it for a drive. and gave him some cash.
i wasnt expecting to get one so soon, but when something comes up somtimes u just gotta take it
this was just a vn berlinal...but it still has all the cruise control eletric windows and stuff.
i wont be using any of that tho...
aidan...
the gear box slipps a bit, but i dont care. i seen it come up on another forum this morning...luckyly enough it was only 10 min from my house went and had a look, took it for a drive. and gave him some cash.
i wasnt expecting to get one so soon, but when something comes up somtimes u just gotta take it
this was just a vn berlinal...but it still has all the cruise control eletric windows and stuff.
i wont be using any of that tho...
aidan...
i'll get there....
5lt
Aiden, i understand that a drum rear end is "enough", BUT is it enough for you, your family and the family commin' towards you.. just consider this. For a few extra $$'s and some work make your project better than the bare min' ... just a thought go 4 wheel disc brake
go 4 wheel disc brakeIf you can’t convince them, confuse them.
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mrs ratbox
one thing to watch for some rego people may want all coresponding pollution gear to match and cat converter, the HK gearbox cross member is no good to you but you should be able to use yor HG one with if anything minor mods, not sure on speedo cause the VN box has electronic speedo but think it can be changed to straight cable, don't think the pipes will fit but they might, HT/G 350 monaros had the same breaks that are on yor car just thicker rotors i also know guys with 10/11 second cars and they only have disc/drum combos, so unless you plan on doing circuit work or heaps of accelerating harsh breaking yor disc drum combo will be more than adequate
5l
Just my thoughts, people never do bare min when putting an injected motor/V8 motor or red motor in their pride, why spend money on making it go that much better and not spend any more money than the bare min on stopping it, we dont have crumple zones or airbags so the next best thing is avoiding the sudden stop all together. Its never the fall that kills you... its the sudden stop. Recently i reply posted somewhere regarding Kinetic energy.. its the force expelled to make you go forward. ie: 80kg dude x 40mph in steel car = almost 13 tonne impact on the body at head-on speed.. to me that = 4 wheel disc all round + 4 flat spots on the Grande Ralley's to avoid ANY impact,.. just my thoughts 
GO THE DISC'S
GO THE DISC'SIf you can’t convince them, confuse them.
Aidan,
have a look at the Pat Gardner V6 conversions web site, there are a few things you can buy from them that you can convert some of the commo stuff to the HG. When I was doing my wagon I bought the rack and pinion mount kit so that you can use the Commo power steering rack. There are also different stubs out there that allow you to use the Commo brakes on the front and using the Commo diff you will have a good all round performer. You can also get the conversion wiring loom for the computer from V6 Conversions as well.
Good luck with whatever you decide, I ended up pulling the pin on the wagon build as it had too much rust and was lucky to find my FB which is where the motor, brakes and diff ended up.
have a look at the Pat Gardner V6 conversions web site, there are a few things you can buy from them that you can convert some of the commo stuff to the HG. When I was doing my wagon I bought the rack and pinion mount kit so that you can use the Commo power steering rack. There are also different stubs out there that allow you to use the Commo brakes on the front and using the Commo diff you will have a good all round performer. You can also get the conversion wiring loom for the computer from V6 Conversions as well.
Good luck with whatever you decide, I ended up pulling the pin on the wagon build as it had too much rust and was lucky to find my FB which is where the motor, brakes and diff ended up.
I think you will find like rat has said that you will be required to fit the engine control management system that the donor engine car ADR's complied to even though you are fitting it to a car that was manufactured prior to ADR 27 ( pollution control requirements ) and its derivatives, and that would also mean the fitment of the cat convertors etc.
That said, I do remember reading somewhere that allowances are made for some post ADR 27 complying engines to be exempt from fitment of pollution control devices due to the unavailability of the pollution control parts that are no longer available form the OEM manufacturer.
Does that make sense
That said, I do remember reading somewhere that allowances are made for some post ADR 27 complying engines to be exempt from fitment of pollution control devices due to the unavailability of the pollution control parts that are no longer available form the OEM manufacturer.
Does that make sense
I can't think what to write here so this will do.
And ,
1970 brakes will pull your car up as 1970 brakes will.
1990 Brakes will pull your car your 1970 car up better than 1970 brakes will.
Drum brake rear is adequate for most situations in normal driving.It's usually a 60/40 brake ratio split so most of the braking effort is done by the front brakes.
If you are heavy on the brakes or towing a lot then disc is better due to near non existant brake fade issues under heavy braking situations that drum brakes do suffer from.
Discs are less maintenance intensive than drums.
1970 brakes will pull your car up as 1970 brakes will.
1990 Brakes will pull your car your 1970 car up better than 1970 brakes will.
Drum brake rear is adequate for most situations in normal driving.It's usually a 60/40 brake ratio split so most of the braking effort is done by the front brakes.
If you are heavy on the brakes or towing a lot then disc is better due to near non existant brake fade issues under heavy braking situations that drum brakes do suffer from.
Discs are less maintenance intensive than drums.
I can't think what to write here so this will do.
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mrs ratbox
Re: 5l
based on that i hope you don't drive yor EK if it has standard brakeslexumus wrote:Just my thoughts, people never do bare min when putting an injected motor/V8 motor or red motor in their pride, why spend money on making it go that much better and not spend any more money than the bare min on stopping it, we dont have crumple zones or airbags so the next best thing is avoiding the sudden stop all together. Its never the fall that kills you... its the sudden stop. Recently i reply posted somewhere regarding Kinetic energy.. its the force expelled to make you go forward. ie: 80kg dude x 40mph in steel car = almost 13 tonne impact on the body at head-on speed.. to me that = 4 wheel disc all round + 4 flat spots on the Grande Ralley's to avoid ANY impact,.. just my thoughts
because i've owned hundreds of different cars (more than likely over a thousand) and driven many more other cars of all different shapes sizes and configurations and standard brakes on an FB/EK are pathetic and don't compare to the disc drum combo on a 350 monaro and yes i've driven oneStandard FB/EK brakes are OK if maintained properly and the car is driven within it's limits and driven in a 1960-1962 manner, start pushing the boundarys or tow a decent load and yes they are pathetic.They can't and won't stop like a modern car, just like a T model &*#@ won't stop like an FB/EK Holden!!
HK/T/G brakes are far better obviously due to the design improvement but again, won't be as good as a more modern braking system.
But like rat said, theHK/T/G are pretty good brakes.They'll pull you up pretty good in an emergency stop.
ABS brakes are the bee's knees if you can fit 'em along with the control system to run them.
HK/T/G brakes are far better obviously due to the design improvement but again, won't be as good as a more modern braking system.
But like rat said, theHK/T/G are pretty good brakes.They'll pull you up pretty good in an emergency stop.
ABS brakes are the bee's knees if you can fit 'em along with the control system to run them.
I can't think what to write here so this will do.
