This is for the ej but i havent seen a decent ej eh forum where i can ask and i was hoping someone could shed some light on it.
A guy i know told me that i cant put a v8 into my ej because of some reason. I was just wondering if its possible to get it street legal with a v8 i was thinking something like a 308 or something, a 350 chev would also be nice .
I know there will be a few thing that need to be added like disk brakes but any info would be great hope everyone enjoys the weekend
Richard , the best thing to do if you are serious about doing a V8 conversion is speak to an engineer , that way you will get the facts about what you can and cant do.
There are plenty of V8 powered early Holdens running around , it is not an impossibility.
I started with nothing and still have most of it left.
Foundation member #61 of FB/EK Holden club of W.A.
simple answer yes you can, but i think maximum size is 5 litre =307 chev or 308 holden
if you want to buy one done (EH ute) a mate has one injected 5 litre, turbo 700, 9" mini tubs, convo pros near show condition (just missing minor detail) all engineered and NSW rego $30,000 ono
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The simple answer is yes you can, but consult a engineer 1st and stick with him through your whole project, ask him all the requirements and get all the answers from him.
As I mentioned before in my post every engineer is different, what 1 will say is OK another will say you can't do it.
I have had plenty of vehicle's engineered and nearly get into arguements all the time with various aspects off what you can do and what you can't.
The RTA has a modified light vehicle guideline code booklet in which you can download off there site, this gives you the basic idea, of what you can start with. All other major mods will have to consulted by your lucky engineer.
There are a few members on the forum who have or are going through the engineering path.
Greg (EK283) is a current member who is going through the same process of V8ting and he may able to shed some current reg issues with us.
Hey John hows it going?
This is the deal!
NSW RTA says that a EK that weighs 1120 kgs can run a max of 327 cubic inch (via a calculation).
It requires a engine of similar vintage that can be run with no pollution gear pre 71. Anything after that year must run the same pollution gear that the engine was designed with.
It must have
1/upgrade disc brakes
2/2 speed windscreen wipers and washers
3/heater demister
4/ front guard blinker indicators Side mount
5/rear vision mirrors on both doors (left and right).
6/noise db level of 96db or less.
7/seat belts in all seating positions
8/collapsable steering column
9/and of coarse a engineering certificate.
10/Cassis kit as well
I think thats about it, not hard but a lot of work!
Good luck.
Regards Greg
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back to difference of engineers, the ones we use don't require crappy looking side indicators and only need a heated demister no actual heater
the guy with the injected 5 litre i mentioned the motor is out or a vr and he required no polution stuff or cats
Everyone , this is just my opinion there are engineers that seem like there hard and unegotiable and there are engineers that run the risk of certifying work that is not technically and legally correct.
Ratbox no offence to you or your mate but if it is certified then it doesn't mean it is right. I'm not having a go at you guy's but i know of people that have done mods supposably correct and certified by an engineer and been the subject of police and rta mobile inspectors who then you guessed it gave them the relevant infringement paper work and fines to go.
My advice is to follow the rta's guideline book and keep up to date with the latest version and then work with your engineer this is the safest way.
Now choosing an engineer is the hard part but i trusted word of mouth and then followed up on his work to see what your dealing with.
For my piece of mind i carry my engineers certificate with me when ever i drive the car.
DITTO,
Have to totally agree with the windowless one.
I have lots of dealings with engineers and also insurance companies (who will do anything not to pay for a claim! )
Unfortunately ignorance doesn't cut it when youv'e plowed your modified car into a shop front or HV transformer on the side of a road.
Do your research and even question the Engineers! After all $500 for certification may just be a money grab and it will be you that forks out any money for non insured damage. Just think about the engineer who's gone out of business at the same time you kill or injure someone and the car dosen't comply with the traffic authorities regulations!
The law is very harsh when it needs to be so do the right thing and educate yourself on what is and what shouldn't be.
Ratbox, Not at all directing this at you or your mates but Ive seen lots of tears when something goes wrong. If its done right the first time then its easy to sleep at night.
the engineers we have used told us what they wanted, the cars then passed inspections by the RTA and the engineer also told us that if the RTA has anything to say about the car to contact him as he is the engineer and at best they are mechanics
i to also carry a copy of the engineers report in my cars when needed
from my vast experiance most cops have no idea what they're looking at
if any modified car has had an accident because it doesn't have side indicators or a heater i'll eat my hat
the engineers we have used is not because they're easy but because they were not dick heads and stood by what ever they signed off on
this is not an arguement just putting out a few points of what i was saying
i personally have had at least 6 cars engineered add to this close mates and we are talking about at least 30 engineers reports
Ratbox i'm not trying to argue with you just trying to point out to young Richard who is after advice on the subject some discussion through the experience of the members of this forum.
Richard hope all this hasn't put you off just take your time and do your research we were all young like yourself and wanted it yesterday.
not all states/engineer requirements are the same, so seek out local options for yourself (can usually get this info from RTA) and get in contact with them. That way you will have the best information possible and should be right from then on.
Also be as honest as you can with them, if you don't know say that, then they will give you the info. If you hide mods etc then you loose in the end, weather it be a defect or a serious accident!
i'm currently going through all the engineering mods i need for my V6 conversion and at first i thought it was all hard and scary, now that im halfway through it im quite happy with the process and its much easier than i even envisaged!
windowless, that is also what i'm doing, if he is serious about doing it he should be getting a list of engineers (street machine magazine web site has one i think) and contacting some, i'm only putting out the point that they are not all the same and some have some stupid requirements and some are also ridiculously expensive
Hi Richard
I'm sure any info you receive here is going to be completely relevant to the EJ conversion, but have you tried speaking with some of the guys on the QLD EJ/EH club forum? There's a lot of great knowledge there and more than a few cars that are in the process of V6 and V8 conversion, as well as some that have been completed.
Like any other forum (especially those open to the general public), you might come across some who you don't see eye to eye with, but personally I've been given a heap of help and guidance with my EH ute by quite a few of the guys there.
Can't hurt to ask for experiences from a range of sources... as sometimes there's little differences between the range of old Holden models that can make all the difference when you're talking to engineers/RTA who may be asking you to be very exact in your work.
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i'll eat my hat
