I just checked with VicRoads and found that the ute was previously registered (archive search) with the 179 red motor thats currently in it
chassis number matches engine number
My question is
1. Can i put the ute back on the road with the red motor in it without having to get a engineers certificate ?
2. Can i put the ute back on the road with a different red motor in it without having to get a engineers certificate ?
i believe i can do Q1 and feel better if someone could confirm as vicroads was vague when i asked them, hate to do all the work and get rejected at the finish line
This is in one of "those" categories..... I have a red in mine - which was effected in 1983 by having the local "plod" visually inspect the engine number replacement..... the RTA (now VicRoads) accepted the change of engine and sent out a replacement certificate and sticker.
I would like to believe that because your ute was registered with a red motor (matcing docs) - you would be able to quote the serial number of the registration and it would not attract any undue attention.....
But, as there has been a lapse in registration renewals.... and you would most certainly need a roadworthy certificate..... it could be a little tricky if some clever clot decides to play hard ball......
Irrespective of whether you manage to get it registered - the next issue is insurance.......
As far as I know, it is not a mean feat to get and engineer's certificate - and my understanding is that you will need a chassis rail kit - plus perhaps some enhanced addtions to braking system and seat belts etc......
Considering the amount of effort needed to get this great looking vehicle back on the road.... it is well worth speaking to a vehicle systems engineer and get an independent opinion.... one which will both remove all doubt - and ensure the vehicle is safe - and, insurance companies do not have any loopholes to prevent you making a claim when a Merc backs up onto you and declares you ran into them........
There's a member here (I forget his name ) who recently bought an EK in Victoria with a red motor. The previous owner had cancelled the rego when the car was sold , so when the new owner went to re register it, he was told it needed an engineers certificate. Mind you, the car was previously registered with the red motor as well.
Thanks for that Cal, not what i was expecting to hear
So I rang vicroads again and after several transfers i got through to the vicroad high level registration inquiry section (something like that)
and was told
If the vehicle has previously been registered with a different engine installed then it has passed certification and does not require any further certification to get the vehicle re-registered
But I wouldn't trust anyone's verbal comments over the phone because sure as sheep shit on the day the vehicle inspector will have a different interpretation of the law as per cal's comments.
If anyone has any other experience in this area i would love to hear it
Just be careful, coz the way that comment of the Vic Roads is worded, they may think that it was just a simple engine change (as in swapping engine numbers), and not a larger engine which does require modification to the car to make it comply
I did explain that the red motor was from a later designed vehicle and not installed into this model range as i initially said that it was a modified motor then had to explain the the motor wasn't actually modified but out of a EH by their records.
he did seem to have some knowledge in the old holden range as we had bit of a chat about it.
hey that's my old ute good 2 see its still around, cops put a yellow sticker on it in the late 90's,so i let the rego run out it had a nosco fuel cap on it witch i still have.
expired reg once its expired you must comply to the current rules.
my ek also had a red in when i brought it .Maybe next year Ill be up to the fun of an Auto engineer If I find 1.
I suppose the best option is to request a link or hard copy of the VicRoads ruling.... you cannot better current written legislation from the "horse's mouth"...
I'd still suggest you make contact with a vehicle systems engineer, just in case....
) who recently bought an EK in Victoria with a red motor. The previous owner had cancelled the rego when the car was sold , so when the new owner went to re register it, he was told it needed an engineers certificate. Mind you, the car was previously registered with the red motor as well.
good 2 see its still around, cops put a yellow sticker on it in the late 90's,so i let the rego run out 
it had a nosco fuel cap on it witch i still have.