Charging problem?

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EKjimmy
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Charging problem?

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G'day all,
I'm running an 85A bosch alternator in my EK with the grey motor. Up until now it's been starting first time every time, but a few days ago it seemed the battery was flat. Starter solenoid made the right sound, and when i jump started it off another car the alternator seemed to be making power.
After a little run, the car was starting normally again-even after sitting witht he radio on at the drive-ins. Stopped again today after filling up at the servo and had to get a jump off another car.
I'm just stumped as to what it could be-starter solenoid is obviously okay, battery was brand new late last year and still seems fine, alternator must be charging otherwise it'd need a jump every time.
Generator light isn't coming on except for when its supposed to when you turn on the ignition (but it does work)
Any ideas?

Jimmy
'The best engine in the world is a vagina. It can be started with only one finger. It is self-lubricating. It takes any size piston. And it changes it's own oil every four weeks. It is a pity that the management system is so f*$king temperamental.'
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Post by Blacky »

Jimmy , grab a multimeter and test the voltage across the battery when the engine isnt running , then start the car and check it again - the voltage should be higher when the motor is running - about 13.6 Volts or thereabouts.
This will tell you if its charging or not.
I started with nothing and still have most of it left.


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righto i'll try that cheers blacky
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update, got her running again after charging the battery for a bit. checked battery water levels, they're OK.
when running, battery charges to 14.35V both at idle and under revs-headlights don't dim or get brighter or anything, so i don't think it's teh regulator.
Battery was brand new mid last year and still seems fine.
While going through the service manual I found some troubleshooting stuff on the starter motor, including running a cable from battery +ve to the starter solenoid switch. When I did this, the car kicked over- so i thought this could be the problem, BUT when i started the car normally after it kicked over, everything seemed fine.
So I've pretty much ruled out regulator, alternator, battery and starter solenoid.....very strange to me.

Anyone have a clue?

Jimmy
'The best engine in the world is a vagina. It can be started with only one finger. It is self-lubricating. It takes any size piston. And it changes it's own oil every four weeks. It is a pity that the management system is so f*$king temperamental.'
Blacky
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Check all the leads are tight - even the negative lead. I had a Landcruiser that wouldnt start when it was hot - pulled the leads off it , ran a tap down the threads and put them back on with new bolts and it never played up again
I started with nothing and still have most of it left.


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EKjimmy wrote:update, got her running again after charging the battery for a bit. checked battery water levels, they're OK.
when running, battery charges to 14.35V both at idle and under revs-headlights don't dim or get brighter or anything, so i don't think it's teh regulator.
Battery was brand new mid last year and still seems fine.
While going through the service manual I found some troubleshooting stuff on the starter motor, including running a cable from battery +ve to the starter solenoid switch. When I did this, the car kicked over- so i thought this could be the problem, BUT when i started the car normally after it kicked over, everything seemed fine.
So I've pretty much ruled out regulator, alternator, battery and starter solenoid.....very strange to me.

Anyone have a clue?

Jimmy
if all else on the + side tests out fine, its probably a poor earth, under intense load a poor earth will heat up and create resistance, therefore drop voltage and struggle

check the battery earth and the point where the body is earthed

good luck 8)
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Post by EKjimmy »

righto, cheers fellas
'The best engine in the world is a vagina. It can be started with only one finger. It is self-lubricating. It takes any size piston. And it changes it's own oil every four weeks. It is a pity that the management system is so f*$king temperamental.'
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