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Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:47 am
by FJWALLY
Word of caution if your fitting a rares accelerator pedal make sure to go over the welds from lever to shaft - just a pissy tack weld - failed on mine before 500k’s use - bloody annoying as couldn’t get it to the rwc test today

- rares replaced it after some discussion but of course it’s the first they have had returned with an issue

- i compared it to an original and the welds are chalk and cheese

You’ll find me lost somewhere!
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:35 pm
by EK283
Ha,
There's only one explanation for that and that is there made in a different country if you know what I mean !
I made one out of stainless many years ago as a novice fabricator and welder because the old one rusted out in sympathy with my floors !!
Greg
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:39 pm
by FJWALLY
I dont agree with that - there is nothing wrong with the materials - just the size and penetration of weld is not right - Rares say its fine so to me thats what they asked for - Ive manufactured in China for 20 years and once the spec and expectations are set and clear Ive not had anything other than minor issues arise.
You’ll find me lost somewhere!
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:04 pm
by Errol62
Everything is made in China now. You get what you pay for and quality control costs.
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:41 pm
by Harv
China will build you whatever you ask for. Ask for awesome quality, and they will do it. Ask for the cheapest thing they can make, and they will do that too. We often get greedy, and ask for the latter.
Just checked the Rares pedal I bought in 2015 when I was playing with cable setups. It has the same crappy spotweld. Will give Dave Ryan from Rares a yell and see if he can throw it on the to-fix list.
Cheers,
Harv
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:01 pm
by FJWALLY
Harv wrote:China will build you whatever you ask for. Ask for awesome quality, and they will do it. Ask for the cheapest thing they can make, and they will do that too. We often get greedy, and ask for the latter.
Just checked the Rares pedal I bought in 2015 when I was playing with cable setups. It has the same crappy spotweld. Will give Dave Ryan from Rares a yell and see if he can throw it on the to-fix list.
Cheers,
Harv
Exactly Harv
They have my broken one as reference as well so hope they do something about it as its not an easy fix on the road - flat top or tow to nearest place with a welder as without accelerator the gogo mobile dont go
The new one I have is just as bad
You’ll find me lost somewhere!
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:34 pm
by EK283
Errol62 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:04 pm
Everything is made in China now. You get what you pay for and quality control costs.
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
Exactly my point !
I'm confident that Rares are not having them made in China because they want good quality.
And before anyone shoots me down I will ask this question, where would business go if the same quality was being made in another country for less cost ??
Enough from me.
Greg
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:46 pm
by FJWALLY
I agree with you Greg in that many companies chase price over all else and thats the reason production of many things left Aus in the first place but but I would also say this product is 99% other parts cost and 1% weld cost so why would you waste all that $ spent in fabricating the base - the lever the pin and the pedal itself only to do a hot splash spot weld when a couple seconds more welding would make it a fail safe product - just makes no sense at all in my book.
EK283 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:34 pm
Errol62 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:04 pm
Everything is made in China now. You get what you pay for and quality control costs.
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
Exactly my point !
I'm confident that Rares are not having them made in China because they want good quality.
And before anyone shoots me down I will ask this question, where would business go if the same quality was being made in another country for less cost ??
Enough from me.
Greg
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:09 pm
by EK283
To be honest it would have been done by an unqualified welder person.
That is the scary part especially if it fails at the wrong time !!!
Greg
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:45 pm
by mph
Errol62 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:04 pm
Everything is made in China now.
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
except for baby's they are made in Va china
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:53 pm
by FJWALLY
mph wrote:Errol62 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:04 pm
Everything is made in China now.
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
except for baby's they are made in Va china

You’ll find me lost somewhere!
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:54 pm
by mph
Is this pedal as a standard setup or changing to a cable
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Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:56 am
by EK DAZ
Thanks for the" heads up", I will be checking mine out. A couple of years ago my wife bought a watering can from the Ware house over here and before to long, the spout fell off. I was amazed at the amount of solder they had used . Stuff all, then it occurred to me that it would be a very skilful individual to use as little solder as they had to stick it together.
Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:07 am
by FJWALLY
mph wrote:Is this pedal as a standard setup or changing to a cable
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Standard pedal
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Re: Accelerator pedal fail
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:24 am
by gpi
so there is only 1 weld on one side?
factory has 4 welds - both sides on both the up and down position