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ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:31 am
by notnad kram
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i everyone, i am a little stuck as my ek wont start. I reversed it up some car ramps to check the diff oil and after i rolled off and tried to start her, she backfired a few times and the battery went flat. I have spark at the plugs and fuel at the carby but she wont fire ??? I was thinking maybe the fuels not getting past the carby for some reason, any ideas anyone thanks, Mark Danton.
Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:34 am
by muza
Is the dizzy tight? Might have moved
Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:40 am
by notnad kram
thanks mate the dizzy is loose, and the cap is too it doesnt want to sit on there firm and the clips are loose i will try another cap or maybe change the clips?? cheers Muzza, Mark
Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:04 am
by MeFB
If it was running fine and now suddenly isn't, then I'd keep it simple.
Here's what I'd say was possibly wrong given that you just had it on a ramp and on more of an angle than it would be used to.
1. Carb float has moved higher than normal and become stuck (gently tap float chamber with a wooden hammer handle).
2. 50 years of crap in the petrol tank has settled around the fuel pick-up and either blocked it or the fuel filter (disconnect fuel line from the carb and have someone crank the engine to see if the fuel pump is pumping fuel. Use a jar or something to catch the fuel).
Also, could be that it's just flooded.
There's all sorts of other stuff, but I'm just thinking about what is likely to have been caused by the angle that the car was on when it was on the ramps.

Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:23 am
by notnad kram
Thanks Alan i will check that out too

Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:24 am
by EK JAY

Try checking the points aswell these can go at any time especially if the dizzy cap has been lose
but yeah as Allan said probably something to do with the fuel tip a little fuel down the carby and
see if it starts and runs also if your battery is semi flat its much harder to get a good crank going
so charge it up

Jay

Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:26 am
by notnad kram
ok, have fully charged battery, carby seems ok, fuel pumping good. Turn the key and she backfires every time tried turning the dizzy, (was very loose ) but cant find a spot to start her. I am not much of a mechanic and living in a small country town it is hard to get one here thanks
Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:14 pm
by MeFB
Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:15 pm
by Thommo
Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:16 pm
by MeFB
notnad kram wrote:I am not much of a mechanic...
You will be before too long
You have an EK, and therefore have no choice in the matter.

Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:33 pm
by MeFB
SunnyTim wrote:The only EK I own that doesn't go is missing an engine

Yeah, but you're the EK Whisperer. All you have to do is go '
PSSHHHTTT' and point your finger at a grey motor for it to start behaving
The rest of us mere mortals are still working our way up the learning curve...

Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:09 pm
by anotherfbnewbie
Hi Mate,
Don't know if this helps but is it possible that the tilt from putting it on the stands has allowed some crud to get into the jets in the carby?
I had this happen once on my 138, and it was pissing fuel from the old stromy when i tried to start it. ( it did fire but ran real rough and pissed fuel from carby)
Ole mate suggested swap ignition leads 3 & 5, crank it, (it will backfire a couple of times), which i did, and when i put them back, it ran perfectly again.
Just a thought.
Cheers
Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:49 pm
by notnad kram
well the hubcap thing didnt work, maybe cause i got a torana wheel on the other side (i never put it there) ek61dave has already told me off. will try the timing when i get out there and the 3 and 5 lead thing sounds interesting, and yes i have no doubt i will learn a thing or 2 about these old girls b4 im done thanks to all of you i will keep ya posted on what it was when i find out. mark
Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:00 am
by notnad kram
Ok thanks guys for all your help, I couldnt find it so I rolled down to the mechanic who found a little piece of metal in the dizzy which must of moved while reversing up the ramps, it was arcing out across to that. Anyhow he tidied up some wires and connected my diamond dot radio and $50 later she's a runner with abc radio, life just got good again.

Thanks again to you all, Mark

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Re: ek 138 wont start.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:02 am
by notnad kram
that was All Holden Day at glenelg, 3hr drive and she drove really well.