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does anybody know, if any other red motor sump other than the original sump be used in a eh holden?

how many red motor's are there:
149, 179, ???

thanks
Sam

Sam, 138 (Torana 2250) 149, 161, 173, 179, 186 and 202 (also 3.3)... and I still may have missed one Can't help with the sumps...

thanks Jack.. but whats the 138 (Torana 2250)???

An LC or LJ Torana that wished it had fins and a grey motor .

http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/ho ... ations.htm

Cheers,
Harv

Sam, I dont know much about them, but apparently they were marked '2250' cc (approx; which is close to 138 c.i.); a 6 cyl red motor that was available in some early 6 cyl Toranas.
Note that they were same capacity as the last of the greys at approx 138 c.i.
I'm sure there will be someone here with more definite info, but you could check the Torana forum...

cheers,jack

WOW!! well I'll be... stumped I tell ya???

thanks guys, thats amazing. never knew that.

sumps, EH is the easy and common one, my van before i fitted the V8 had a H/KTG sump on the red 6 not sure on how it was done as it was in the van when i bought it, a mate used a H/DR sump by cutting the drop down off and turning it around and rewelding it back on, and if you look in austmods thread his engine also has a modded H/DR or H/KTG sump

as for the red motors i've had a few 138 reds and all except 1 went quite well (like chalk and cheese compared to 138 grey ) even the dud was better than most grey powered cars i've been in (not knocking greys just making a comparison )

The 138 Red motor was rated at 90 horsepower and the 138 grey was rated at 75 horsepower so an extra 15 horses makes the difference.

Thnks fellars. Very interesting. But still lookin for answer on sumps ???

samprinci wrote:But still lookin for answer on sumps ???

UMM

harry186 wrote:sumps, EH is the easy and common one, my van before i fitted the V8 had a H/KTG sump on the red 6 not sure on how it was done as it was in the van when i bought it, a mate used a H/DR sump by cutting the drop down off and turning it around and rewelding it back on, and if you look in austmods thread his engine also has a modded H/DR or H/KTG sump

what else do you need to know i can tell you what i think they did to get the H/KTG sump in there

I had a modified HKTG sump that is being used in a car on this forum.
I recon you could only use this type with a HR steering link rod because the are bent away from the cross member giving it a bit more room than the standard FB EK link.

Trev wrote:I had a modified HKTG sump that is being used in a car on this forum.
I recon you could only use this type with a HR steering link rod because the are bent away from the cross member giving it a bit more room than the standard FB EK link.

yeah the van had the HR steering link, it really confused me at first as the engine mounts were to the rear of the crossmember, where i wasn't 100% sure was that it had a H/KTG steering box so thought it could have possably had other steering components moved

great. thanks guys. much appreciated