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I have a 186 i took out of a HR that i robbed for parts some years ago, i always belived it to be a 186S motor as it has a HP block . I'm looking to sell it shortly along with a celica 5spd conversion but i would like to confirm what the engine is so i dont unkowingly sell a fake. Can someone lead me to where i can reference the numbers so i can confirm this.

no such thing as a 186HP motor, if it's marked HP on the block then it's a 179 or a 308 but i think you'de pick if it were a 308
it could be a 179 bored out to 186 could also go out to 186+60, so to basically answer yor original question no it's not a 186 S, i think they are identified by an S in the engine No

ratbox wrote:no such thing as a 186HP motor, if it's marked HP on the block then it's a 179 or a 308 but i think you'de pick if it were a 308
it could be a 179 bored out to 186 could also go out to 186+60, so to basically answer yor original question no it's not a 186 S, i think they are identified by an S in the engine No

Thanks, i wasnt sure it was a 186 but its definately a HP block - at least now i know what it is so i can sell it in good faith.

I have a 186s motor and it is identified by the engine number that begins with 186s

Tim wrote:I have a 186s motor and it is identified by the engine number that begins with 186s

Thanks Tim, is it complete, do you have the headers and 2brl manifold ?

Dont early 149s have HP cast into the block as well?

149's have nothing on the block, the only red 6 like it, Trev .

there was also the 186K blocks, which were the twin carbies motors

wot179 wrote:Dont early 149s have HP cast into the block as well?

that's one of my lies when i've done an external destroke on a HP block and can't be bothered grinding HP off the block if you ssee a 149 look at the casting it's neaar the same as a gray motor 3 welsch plugz etc

Thanks Tim, is it complete, do you have the headers and 2brl manifold ?

headers and manifold are in the shed somewhere, don't know if there original, wouldn't know if they have any identifiable markings

Tim wrote: headers and manifold are in the shed somewhere, don't know if there original, wouldn't know if they have any identifiable markings

The way to tell the 186S headers from the X2 headers is the auto choke hole that goes through the 186S and not the X2, Trev .

Trev wrote:

Tim wrote: headers and manifold are in the shed somewhere, don't know if there original, wouldn't know if they have any identifiable markings

The way to tell the 186S headers from the X2 headers is the auto choke hole that goes through the 186S and not the X2, Trev .

here's one I prepared earlier

yogie wrote:

Trev wrote:

Tim wrote: headers and manifold are in the shed somewhere, don't know if there original, wouldn't know if they have any identifiable markings

The way to tell the 186S headers from the X2 headers is the auto choke hole that goes through the 186S and not the X2, Trev .

here's one I prepared earlier

Looks like the set i have are off an X2 then, i bought them at about the same time i also bought a 186S manifold /carby and X2 manifold /carbies but cant remember if they were off the same vehicle or not.

wot179 wrote:Dont early 149s have HP cast into the block as well?

my 149 has HP on the block it came out of a eh sedan
i bought as a parts car (motor and front end HR )

EK JAY wrote:

wot179 wrote:Dont early 149s have HP cast into the block as well?

my 149 has HP on the block it came out of a eh sedan
i bought as a parts car (motor and front end HR )

it's not a 149 then does the engine No start with an M or a H