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The ongoing saga of where to mount speakers
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:23 pm
by J
Looking to mount some splits in the front of my car and had the plan of putting the 6in speakers in the kick panels and the tweeters in the original speaker grille.
Andrew tells me that I would have to cut my doors and weld some buckets to protect speakers from water so that idea is now out of the question.
There is the option of cutting the doors and having the speakers in the door trim but I dont really like the look. Has anybody mounted any under the dash?
If so how did you do this? Did you make a bucket around it to better the sound quality etc?
Im up for ideas so please share, pics would be appreciated muchleh

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:29 pm
by NoMAD
J,
do you already have the speakers?
what does Andy mean cut your doors for if there going in your kick panels?
he means this by the way... cause of the drain tube location, and by saying that i found decent 6 inch speakers were a little big for my liking so went to 5.25"
you would have to check some meassurements, and do this sort of thing in your door?
remember if you do run cables through the doors or body to put some rubber gromments in and run in conduits to try and save water getting in...
cheers
NoMAD
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:31 pm
by mudgroup
j.. 2 sml speakers where original speaker sat... under grill on dash... and two in the rear... original look, no cutting.. sounds is good

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:13 pm
by J
I already have the speakers and they are 6inch.
Doing the headlight buckets is too much work, and I dont have the resources to do it, and in the doors I dont like the look so id like them hidden under the dash.
The two speakers I have wont fit in the original grille so thats where i plan on putting my tweeters
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:42 pm
by EKjimmy
You can put em under the dash no worries (you'll need to make a bracket) but they probably won't sound too great. I guess you're not interested in making new kick panels to suit the speakers? that's how mine are done just temporarily, 6" need about 25mm spacing on top of the kick panel to sit there, but if you fiberglassed it and put grilles over the speakers they'd be less noticeable?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:24 pm
by NoMAD
With the door speakers i would just punch holes in your trim (neatly)and have them hidden behind it, not but the grille covers over the top so that way there are hidden...
like this but in the door
or as the others have suggested, build a bracket to hold them underneath the dash... get some of the MDF rings from an audio store/jb's/supa crap autos/ and work from there, find a central mounting spot under the dash and build off that.
Cheers
NoMAD
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:21 pm
by Devilrod
Or you can be real bodgy and mount one facing up and one facing down in the original speaker hole and one directly under it off the underised of the dash. No cutting need, and no I'm not taking any pics it was meant to be tempoarary but that was a year ago....

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:08 pm
by Sputzwagon
...as a customizer I say put 'em where you want J.
Mine are in the front of the doors & parcel shelf..as for stopping the speakers getting wet in the doors..well the modern speakers don't have cardboard cones in 'em any more so I don't see the need for any protection (plus my speakers are only cheapies anyway

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Scotty.
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:59 am
by Craig
wear headphones
Sinatra sounds better this way
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:18 am
by J
given up trying to mount them under the dash...
too much stuff to work around, so it looks like il be cutting out the doors
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:02 pm
by Ken
i'm gonna stick mine under the dash.
not lookin for any huge sound (lucky) just something...
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:43 pm
by Trev
I mounted mine in the kick panels with some of those spacers infront of them, saved wrecking the door cards, Trev

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:21 pm
by Devilrod
J why not make some custom kick panels.
Step 1 get a second set of kick panels (or use originals)
Step 2 buy a pair of spacers deep enough so you don't have to cut holes in the kick panel.
Step 3 Go buy a metre of lycra and come resin and hardener, and material to trim when done..
Step 4 Glue spacers to the kick panels in a spot to enable good clearance for entry, pedal etc..
Step 5 Cover in lycra.
Step 6 Mix up resin and hardener, cover lycra evenly.
Step 7 allow time to cure.
Step 8 cut hole for speaker, then trim.
Step 9 Put in car, wire up.
Step 10 Cut heaps of laps with anything but doof doof playing at full noise!!!
Similar to what Gary did in the black beast for his speakers and console. Will take two days and very little cost.
Q
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:37 pm
by kiid61
Might be a little too late but I'm an car audio installer dude.. The best way to mount them without cutting holes in your car ( never a good idea, think of re-sale, dodgey install etc etc ) Is to go to bunnings, Get some 6.5-8" pvc cut 2 lenghs at whatever works the best for you. Make two 18mm craftwood baffles for each end fill the inside with insulation ( spolight will have a stack of things you can use ) And stick them up under the dash with the speaker facing the floor... Sounds stupid to some but they will sound alot better this way than cutting holes in your doors, or mounting them in the kick trim ( unless you do the head light canister converison )
You will get plenty of bass from this.
Tweeters are easy. Just take out the speaker panel on top of the dash, Get some thin tin ( central locking brakets work well, you can get them from autobarn or any car audio store ) Make some brakets and screw the cover back down.. Just face each tweeter to the top corners of your windscreen and if they are not loud enough you might be able to turn up the gain on your xovers... +3db it will probably read..
Hope this helps!............
Dont cut holes in your doors. Its more work than you need to do and new age speaker grills in 50yo cars look taky.. Not to say all do. But a large majority...
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:04 pm
by artyfartymarty
j,
i've installed a pair of 4" in the dash hole. i can take a pic for you, it took bugger all time to do and was easy, look good and sound...well, there's noise but dont expect doof from 4" spearkers. its a good spot for centre staging, i'll be doing an under dash install in a few weeks, i'll start up a new thread to show progress & wouldn't mind to see other peoples under dash installs before i commence. A pattern would be nice if anyone has done an under dash flush board. I'm hoping to install the 8" 3 way splits under there and leave the 4" in the original dash hole.
I too am not going to cut holes in my doors or door trims, my kick panels could do with a retrim but there is no room on the driver side for speakers unless they're recessed into the steel panel with headlight cups or ss kitchen bowls. the under dash is the only solution i can see for the 8" splits.