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Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:52 am
by FireKraka
Yeh thanks Harv unfortunately my switch pushes in like the fitting in the tank shown in your photo so will just have to see what happens after I trial fit and test.
Thanks for the photo.
Neil
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:26 am
by FireKraka
Trial fitted the Protek tank and it seemed to work quite well and maintained Vacuum pretty well with it just on the floor and in parallel with the little tank under the guard.

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Moved the tank back to the tray behind driver and plumbed it in, the vacuum drops quicker with the tank back in the tray but the pedal does feel better I think will not know for sure until I take it out on the road again.

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I don't think there is enough room under the guard for the bigger tank but if it is still not quite right I may have to squeeze it in, don't really want to put it in the engine bay.
Neil
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:46 am
by Errol62
Running in parallel Neil? Tried running in series?
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Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:02 am
by FireKraka
Probably what I meant Clay just wrong terminology
Goes like this, Vac pump to large tank in tray, large tank to small tank under guard, small tank to Booster
Neil
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:25 am
by Harv
Shouldn't make much difference parallel or series. The issue is more about combined tank volume (number of "sucks" the system can supply) than flow (how fast the system can suck).
Cheers,
Harv
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:44 am
by Errol62
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Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:04 pm
by EK283
I read this with a lot of interest as my booster is only a Gemini one.
Yesterday I pumped the pedal more than 6 times and it felt ok !
How do the engineers actually test it ?
Greg
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:39 pm
by Harv
EK283 wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:04 pmHow do the engineers actually test it ?
A nice engineer goes for a road test, and gets a feel for whether the car behaves itself. Other engineers follow this:
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/ro ... manual.pdf
Cheers,
Harv
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:55 pm
by FireKraka
Hey Greg in WA they have a machine or my engineer does

he puts a pressure pad (my term) on the brake pedal gets you to come up to say 60 Km's and then apply the brake hard as if you were doing an emergency stop because some asshole in front of you had hit his, his machine then reads the amount of pressure you have had to apply to the pedal to stop the car, I was having to apply too much pressure his machine said even though I thought my brakes felt ok; he drove Frank and said he could feel the pedal assistance for the first little push and then he thought it got harder i.e. run out of vac I assume.
Neil
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:51 pm
by basic.green
has any one looked into the electric vac pumps off the new commode.. look like they might be the go these days
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:03 pm
by Harv
I took a look at them, but couldn't find one that wasn't being sold for stupid money... it was not much dearer going for an aftermarket one.
Cheers,
Harv
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:53 pm
by Blacky
basic.green wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:51 pm
has any one looked into the electric vac pumps off the new commode.. look like they might be the go these days
What model Commode are they off ? Ii see quite a few later model cars dumped on the side of the road in my travels ....
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:58 am
by Harv
AFAIK, VE/VF.
Cheers,
Harv
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:43 am
by FireKraka
The one that I have fitted was an eBay unit $168 came with the Hobbs switch and small tank, it says it is a UP28 Origin whatever that means and used in &*#@ Ranger Hyundai Tuscan and some Mazda Models.
Neil
Re: Neils Frankenstein Ute
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:38 pm
by basic.green
i think the ve sv6 and ss.. vf.. think sonic make a mounting bracket to mount.. i will probably go this way if i dont have the vacuum