Leroy the EK Ute

[Errol62]

Pity you don’t live closer man.


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[FJWALLY]

I had the same problem with mine - two were dodgy at best - three in good nick but a couple wobbles so I just got 5 new ROH rims - need to grind a ridge for the hub caps but otherwise they are near identical and much safer for a tubeless tyre.

If you were in Melbourne you could have a look at my old ones although I'm tempted to just store them away in case I ever sell it.

[thebrotherj]

I had the same problem with mine - two were dodgy at best - three in good nick but a couple wobbles so I just got 5 new ROH rims - need to grind a ridge for the hub caps but otherwise they are near identical and much safer for a tubeless tyre.

If you were in Melbourne you could have a look at my old ones although I'm tempted to just store them away in case I ever sell it.

Cheers Wally.

Do you mean safer because the ROH replacements have the different safety lip? Or because the centres are welded, not riveted?

Yeah, I reckon you’d be wise to hang on to them if you’re in any doubt! Original equipment prices are only gonna go up.

Joe


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[Errol62]

Once you have hub caps on you can’t tell the difference in appearance. Make sure they all have the same offset of course. The HD hr factory rims have a slight difference.

If you go for new rims you could consider getting a 6” set made up. You can bring the inside of the rim in 1/4”. The outside is then 1 1/4” wider. Looks nice, doesn’t foul guards with 185/75 LT radials and legal track is maintained. The down side is that you can only run a skinny spare if you use the original spare wheel door.



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[ardiesse]

Joe,

The lack of seatbelts and demister will not prevent you from getting blue-slipped. You don't even need indicators.
Original steel rim - I have one, and maybe a second that's in serviceable condition.

Rob

[thebrotherj]

Joe,

The lack of seatbelts and demister will not prevent you from getting blue-slipped. You don't even need indicators.
Original steel rim - I have one, and maybe a second that's in serviceable condition.

Rob

Brilliant! I think I have three that are ok, and a fourth that will suffice as a spare only.
I can head up any evening this week, I’ll message you to arrange that and talk $$

Cheers, Joe


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[FJWALLY]

Safer in a few ways - The seal on new is a better design for sure so less likely to bleed air or let go completely - once you have any kind of corrosion in and around rivets the integrity is compromised but I dont recall ever seeing one let go so maybe not an issue - the valve stems wont seal well with any kind of rust there and are not legal in fact so you need be aware of that - we used to chuck tubes in them even in the 90's but of course thats not legal anymore either.
I guess when I refer to safety I'm meaning their ability to hold air under duress - ie if you up at speed and cornering there is a huge amount of force on your tyres - the seal is super important and rolling a tyre off at even 60 k's can be an exciting moment or as used to happen a lot in the speedway times is the rim became a shovel and dug in meaning the momentum of the cornering sent the car over the top - I know thats the extreme but sudden evasive action on hwy is basically same situation so tyre safety is paramount in my view.
If you have a friendly tyre place get them to spin them up to see how warped they are - can do that on your hub also but better with some real speed as they can vibrate really bad when out of whack.

[ardiesse]

Running tubes in early Holden rims isn't legal any more?
First I've heard of it.
Tyre places have always advised me to run tubes in pre-HD 13x4.5 rims, because they didn't have the safety lip.

Rob

[thebrotherj]

Running tubes in early Holden rims isn't legal any more?
First I've heard of it.
Tyre places have always advised me to run tubes in pre-HD 13x4.5 rims, because they didn't have the safety lip.

Rob

When I worked for Mildrens (94-04), I recall at some point during that time being told not to install tubes anymore. I can’t say if it was a legality issue or the business doing away with labour charges involved in checking then installing a tube, rather than fitting a new tyre...

We only worked on cars with modern rims of course, and tubes only ever came out very infrequently for customers who were looking for a cheap fix when there was that odd tyre that would slow-leak, even after new valve, cleaning & reseating, and no visible bubbles in the old bath tub check.

I used to use plugs for nail punctures, but I understand that plugs aren’t even legal anymore either? I’ve been out of the game for many years now...

Cheers Joe


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[thebrotherj]

Safer in a few ways - The seal on new is a better design for sure so less likely to bleed air or let go completely - once you have any kind of corrosion in and around rivets the integrity is compromised but I dont recall ever seeing one let go so maybe not an issue - the valve stems wont seal well with any kind of rust there and are not legal in fact so you need be aware of that - we used to chuck tubes in them even in the 90's but of course thats not legal anymore either.
I guess when I refer to safety I'm meaning their ability to hold air under duress - ie if you up at speed and cornering there is a huge amount of force on your tyres - the seal is super important and rolling a tyre off at even 60 k's can be an exciting moment or as used to happen a lot in the speedway times is the rim became a shovel and dug in meaning the momentum of the cornering sent the car over the top - I know thats the extreme but sudden evasive action on hwy is basically same situation so tyre safety is paramount in my view.
If you have a friendly tyre place get them to spin them up to see how warped they are - can do that on your hub also but better with some real speed as they can vibrate really bad when out of whack.

Thanks Wally and yes to all this.

My good rims are straight and the centre/rivets look good, they even held air with cracked old tyres on.
My only concern is the corrosion at the valve stem and yeah, I’m not going to mess with the suss looking ones.

Cheers, Joe



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[thebrotherj]

Pity you don’t live closer man.


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True! We could have brand new Grey vs smoky old Red powered ute drag race...

(I reckon you'd still win)

[ardiesse]

. . . it's not all that far from suburban Sydney to Willunga. In fact, a very pleasant drive as I remember.
If you're going to have the ute drag, tell me, and I'll buy tickets.
Why not a hill-climb? I'll even volunteer as support crew.

Rob

[FireKraka]

I think we could have a fb/ek ute muster with the amount being built and already completed

Neil

[Errol62]

I won’t swap in the 3:08 diff I scored just yet then Joe.

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[Harv]

. . . it's not all that far from suburban Sydney to Willunga. In fact, a very pleasant drive as I remember.
If you're going to have the ute drag, tell me, and I'll buy tickets.
Why not a hill-climb? I'll even volunteer as support crew.

Rob

Damn, I stay off the forum for a few days, and next thing I know you pair have organised a ute drag race. Count me in (don't tell Grace ).

If you are still short on wheels Joe let me now - I've got a few spares here in good nick (came with the FB when I bought it).

Cheers,
Harv