engine stopped dead

Includes fuel system, cooling system and exhaust.

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Post by Oldnblue »

Sheesh, got a bit sidetracked from this problem. Had an accident in the XP last Tuesday and have been sorting that out instead of working on the EK. The &*#@ is in the shop now getting evaluated and should know tomorrow what the end result is. Unless there's hidden damage to structural areas, I'm pretty sure the majority of the work will be reasonably straightforward panel repair.

So anyway, did manage to spend half an afternoon on the EK this past weekend, had a thorough look at the fuel delivery again and have managed to get her running half decently:
1. Pulled down the fuel lines again to blow through
2. Pulled down fuel pump and thoroughly re-cleaned
3. Checked new fuel filter - all clean
4. Finished installing fresh flexible fuel lines, pre-pump
5. Drained remainder of fuel from tank and flushed with metho. Re-filled with fresh fuel
6. Checked all plugs, wires, leads etc
7. Checked for fuel squirt into carb when pumping throttle...all good
8. Dumped a small amount of new fuel into throat, cranked her over and she started after a few seconds.
Ran a little rough at first but managed to pull a half-decent tune out of the carby and she's now ticking over quiet decently. Took her for a 25km drive and all went well - no missing, no stalling, no stopping. Could still just use a proper tune by someone with the know-how to get the best results. She's booked in at my mechanic this week to have a good going over, including all electrical and ignition, but essentially for the moment, I believe it's problem solved. Problem being fuel, more than likely some kind of crap that came through from the tank and caused delivery issues.
Will get myself a kit and overhaul the carby as soon as I get the chance, but I'm pretty certain now that I've cleaned up whatever was causing the problem and will have her running as good as ever by the end of the week.

Big thanks to Rosco, Tim and co. for advice throughout. proved invaluable in trying to narrow down issues and over-complicate the process of elimination.

Cheers, Scott
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Post by rosco »

Phew! - glad your seem to be back on track....but..

did you "learn" anything.... this is what it's all about.....

thanks for the update... was hoping it would be all good.....
sorry to learn of the XP .... anyone hurt?

frats,
Rosco
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Post by Oldnblue »

Rosco
Have certainly learnt a great deal on the path of fuel from the tank right through to carby, what happens to it along the way (and how that happens), and what can be caused by variances in this delivery. Helped me understand also the path and role of spark in the equation.
What I want to (and need to) get under my hat now is not just the understanding of the whole process of this ignition, but the practical skills in establishing/diagnosing where the path of said spark has been broken and why/how it happened.
Hoping to hook up with some of our more experienced and knowledgable brethren sometime soon and harnessing that kind of skillset.

As for the XP, an unfortunate series of split-second errors led to some body damage on the car, but nobody hurt thankfully.
So far, my insurance company hs been fantastic and very helpful about it (Shannons, if anyone is interested), but I'll be certain to give the forum some feedback on my experience through the whole process once the outcome is finalised and the car is back in the garage.
Cheers, Scott
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Post by rosco »

Hi Scott,
I am very glad to learn that you have picked up some "tools" to work with should your old bus let you down......

The ignition system..... I wrote about six pages on the subject some time back which included an immobiliser.... I will not publish this on the forum but if you want me to send you the attachments ...... email me and they are yours.....
- also to any other forum member who wants to spend an hour taking in my waffle.........
I originally wrote it for a chap who is a pistol shooter - and used the relevant parts of a pistol to relate to what goes on in the ignition system.......

Warning - this one is particularly L O N G......

frats,
Rosco
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Post by Oldnblue »

Hey Tim
Had a good visit with my mechanic on Friday, and as you suspected, there was more than one issue going on at once. Teamed up with the issue of crap getting through the filter/pump, my points needed to be replaced.
A basic part of the ignition process I know, but one that I still need to be able to differentiate between good/working and faulty/failing.
Car's running great now and next on my list of 'to dos' is learning what to look for when checking condition of points.
Cheers all, Scott
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Post by rosco »

Hi Scott,
happy to learn that you seem to have conquered your quest...

frats,
Rosco
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Post by Oldnblue »

Hi Rosco
It was made all the more intriguing in that there was actually 2 issues that had developed at once and the symptons of both were combining to make diagnosis all the more difficut.
Resolving the fuel issue got the car back running and driveable, but still rough.
The points, once replaced, were the final part of the puzzle that got the engine back to it's old self.
Cheers, Scott
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Post by rosco »

Hence the old adage, Scott...... never assume....

thanks for the update..... glad you're again in the "groove"....

frats,
Rosco

ps - not many would remember that term..... it related to playing records....
and I suppose even fewer would remember.... "EP's"......
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Post by vamped »

I have just read through this thread - just fantastic to see this kind of help and expertise, THANK YOU!
I am learning too, every little bit helps to build up the skills to keep these ole boys running.... so thank you again, it's just great!!!
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