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Seems like your getting there, I can see why you were so desperate for the Y frames. Will it be back on the road for the Cruise season?

OPERATION MOTOR OUT.
Advice required!





The motor is coming out so that I can change my Y-frames to a nice rust free item.
I have drained all fluids (coolant, oil, fuel) and disconnected everything I can see and think of ie exhaust, throttle, choke, starter, generator, radiator, oil gen & temp light etc.
Still got to undo engine and gearbox mounts, clutch and tailshaft - anything else I'm missing?
I've got a week off coming up so I want to get the motor out, the front end out and the old Y-frames off so I can fix up the gearbox crossmember before putting it all back together.

Here's where I need some advice.
When removing the grey & gearbox as one, is it easier to do it with the wheels off & jacked up, sitting normally, or the wheels off and nose down?
Also, as I'm removing the complete engine and ancilliaries, what is the best way to sling the engine up to the hoist?
Any other advice anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated, this is the first time I've done anything like this.

Also, is it necessary to remove the front seat when welding the gearbox crossmember? Obviously the floor mat would need to come out but the seat is a fair way back from the crossmember so I'm wondering if it needs to be removed.

What do you do regarding fuel in the tank when welding on the vehicle (gearbox crossmember)? Do you empty the tank, remove the tank, just leave it in cos it's a fair way away from where I'm welding?

Jon

Dont forget to undo speedo cable from gearbox

paroharo wrote:OPERATION MOTOR OUT.
Advice required!
Here's where I need some advice.
When removing the grey & gearbox as one, is it easier to do it with the wheels off & jacked up, sitting normally, or the wheels off and nose down?
Also, as I'm removing the complete engine and ancilliaries, what is the best way to sling the engine up to the hoist?
Any other advice anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated, this is the first time I've done anything like this.

Are you using an engine crane or block and tackle? Realistacly either way is probably easier with the wheels on as the car will roll easier than an engine crane or allow you to push out from under the block and tackle.

Slinging can be done a few ways but try and get an even balance when lifting or at least close to it.

paroharo wrote:Also, is it necessary to remove the front seat when welding the gearbox crossmember? Obviously the floor mat would need to come out but the seat is a fair way back from the crossmember so I'm wondering if it needs to be removed.

Depends some times its better to be safe than sorry, your call.

paroharo wrote:What do you do regarding fuel in the tank when welding on the vehicle (gearbox crossmember)? Do you empty the tank, remove the tank, just leave it in cos it's a fair way away from where I'm welding?

Jon

Block the end you pulled of from the fuel pump and try not to heat the fuel line unnecesarrily.

Oh yeah and remember its supposed to be fun...

Devilrod wrote:Oh yeah and remember its supposed to be fun...

I'm loving it!
Just want to make sure I don't make any unnecessary mistakes!

Thanks for the tips guys, the motor & box came out easy as this morning.
No pics cause my internet is speed limited and it takes forever to load them up - dunno how the dial up guys do it.
Trying to get the front end out now and then the Y-frames are coming off ready for rust repairs to the floor and new Y-frames.

robbyr wrote:Dont forget to undo speedo cable from gearbox

You were even reminded!!!!

Good work getting it out though..... Now the fun starts...

The amount of projects which start by pulling the motor out for something simple and then spiral out of control... "Just got to whip the heads off to see if I can find why it's getting hot" springs to mind....... Oh dear...

stock wrote:

robbyr wrote:Dont forget to undo speedo cable from gearbox

You were even reminded!!!!

Ummm I DID actually disconnect the speedo?!?! What makes you think I didn't??

stock wrote: Good work getting it out though..... Now the fun starts...

The amount of projects which start by pulling the motor out for something simple and then spiral out of control... "Just got to whip the heads off to see if I can find why it's getting hot" springs to mind....... Oh dear...

Tell me about it, now I'm thinking it would be silly to put it back together half done just so I can cruize it when it's already apart. Nooooooooooo

paroharo wrote: Ummm I DID actually disconnect the speedo?!?! What makes you think I didn't??

Sorry mate, I was misinformed by your partner in crime!!

He's probably just jealous because you've got less rust than him!!

Ahh thought that might have been the case..
They don't call him Dangerous Dave for nothin'

BTW thanks for the engine hoist it was sweeeeeeeet

MAJOR UPDATE!!
Well last time we heard, the motor & box were out...
Here's how...











The front end came off...









Meanwhile the interior came out, revealing many sins, but more on that later...





The RAT tried to redeem itself...



The Y-frames had to be cut off - the outer legs virtually fell off, but the bolts thru the inner legs were seized solid.
You can see here how bad the Y-frames were...









This one shows the hole in the firewall/floor


This one shows the mashed crossmember


So with the Y-frames off it was time to remove the dodgy crossmember by drilling out the spots...







The holes in the floor from inside...





So that brings us up to today, where I began to cut out the floor panels, ready for Rare Spares repair panels to go in. Making that first cut was the hardest, but really what could I do to make it worse! Just got to run along the sill with the angle grinder to get the driver's side out.



I got my new Y-frames blasted and put in etch primer by Steve at Adelaide Fast Blast.
I'm fabricating a new crossmember in three parts, ala EKSPCL - I folded up the outer sections and fabbed the centre section but I'm not 100% happy with the fit to the tunnel so might do it again.
Timbo (stock) supplied the HR drum brake front end, it's waiting for a clean up before going on.



And the reason for my recent flurry of activity?



Bought a Transmig 200. Sweeeeeeet.

geez man you are definetly doing it the hard way!

you have to be happy with those results

cheers
NoMAD

NoMAD wrote:geez man you are definetly doing it the hard way!

what do you mean the hard way?
as far as I can see it's the only way?

paroharo wrote:

NoMAD wrote:geez man you are definetly doing it the hard way!

what do you mean the hard way?
as far as I can see it's the only way?

true, i just ment with what you are starting with.... most people would simple scrap that so credit man!

Cheers
NoMAD