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Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:57 pm
by FJWALLY
I agree Harv it's a very murky world navigating through NCOP rules and regs - It's just so stupid that a car can quite legally drive around without seatbelts and an owner who fits them could potentially be breaking the law which highlights how ridiculous the system is - even worse for 4x4's I can tell you.
I try to use three rules when modifying my 4x4 and the EK
1. Does it follow what is standard practice and supported by the brand your installing - in my case - tick.
2. Does it improve the safety of the people in the vehicle - also tick.
3. Does it increase the danger to other road users - no tick here so all good.
With the seatbelts I bought them from a reputable supplier who is well known and used in the industry and followed his install guidelines and used his hardware - your 99% of the way there if you do that.
The rest will take care of itself.
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:58 pm
by FJWALLY
That would be the safe option to avoid any requests for certification.
NigelM wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:45 pm
So perhaps get it registered before putting in the seatbelts might be the easiest, least risky option.
Nigel
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:03 am
by Blacky
NigelM wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:45 pm
So perhaps get it registered before putting in the seatbelts might be the easiest, least risky option.
Nigel
Thats what I did

Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:39 pm
by thebrotherj
G'day Nigel,
Firstly, what a fantastic ute mate, congratulations! Likewise, I will soon 'blue slip' my EK Ute here in NSW and it has never had seat belts fitted. I intend to present the car in unmodified form and have it registered 'as-is', then will pursue seat belt installation. Which I may or may not do myself, we'll see.
Keep us posted as this adventure unfolds!
FJWally & Harv's comments are right - it's all over the shop, no matter what state you are in. Other than for the obvious safety benefit... I want belts installed even if just to avoid the hassle of being pulled over by Police to be queried about not wearing a seat belt. That is just inviting unwanted further investigation of my old jalopy, which is the last thing I want!
Cheers Joe
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:46 pm
by NigelM
As part of my son's school project he has some questions that he is hoping the forum may be able to help with.
I have noticed that the keyhole for the door lock is on the passenger side only. Why would this be so?
Thanks Lock
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:57 pm
by EK283
I'm pretty sure it was law back in the day that you had to get in and out of the kerbside only !
Regards Greg
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:20 pm
by Harv
EK283 wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:57 pm
I'm pretty sure it was law back in the day that you had to get in and out of the kerbside only !
Regards Greg
Dunno... don’t all the early Holden sedans and wagons all have drivers locks? It’s only the commercials AFAIK.
The missing door locks needs a Dr Terry investigation
Cheers,
Harv
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:27 pm
by Errol62
This one has been pondered on and off for many years. The specials had locks both sides at least back to FC. Obviously key holes on both sides was considered somewhat of an extravagance for the working man, but why the passenger side when the driver position is definitely the one most used. My vote is for a combination of practicalities. Easy to slide across the bench seat after conveniently and safely entering from the kerb side door. Old time chivalry or sexism depending how you look at it. In the case of a couple (does it go without saying man and woman now days?) the man would very likely be the driver, even after a few drinks. He could unlock and open the door for the woman to enter from the footpath. I don’t believe this question has ever been definitively answered. I reckon the past attitudes this question highlights make it a very good one for your young one to ponder.
Cheers
Clay
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Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:58 pm
by gpi
it was to remind you that you bought the cheaper car...
every
goddamn
day...
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:00 pm
by gpi
real men drive 225s and smoke camels
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:09 pm
by Errol62
First mod I did to my 215 was fit a set from a special. Doors boot glove box and ignition . Or was it HT rims first? Dad smoked them Camel plains. RIP at 57.
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Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:13 am
by Harv
gpi wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:58 pm
it was to remind you that you bought the cheaper car...
every
goddamn
day...

. I thought it was cool that Grace's ute had no drivers door lock. It's less funny now that I get to drive it.
Cheers,
Harv
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:06 pm
by vmx-mxr
Bugga!
I had an FC 217 for a while in the late eighties - great old car (as in "why the hell did I sell it?") but the vacuum wipers and the left hand only lock definitely tested my patience !!!
Shock and horror for the purists - the FB ute is most likely getting 'a NASCO modification' on the right hand side.
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:28 pm
by FJWALLY
Is fitting the RHS lock a difficult thing other than the obvious cutting a hole in the door?
Re: Nigel"s EK Ute
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:48 pm
by Errol62
Easy as Wally. All you need is a correctly keyed lock assembly. You can buy these new in sets as I recall you need the ignition barrel as well.
Also a retaining spring plate identical to the one on the passenger side. The hole to slide the retainer plate in should already exist in your drivers door.

Passrnger and driver side are mirror image twins but I recall that you can convert them by removing the actuator on the end and turning through 180 degrees. This is all from memory so I think I have it right. Anyway it is not rocket surgery.
Cheers
Clay
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