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Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:08 pm
by ben
:thumbsup: nice work. Good to see another one being saved

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:45 pm
by Grimbo
Thanks for the positive feedback guys, I haven't had much time of late to work on the FB. But found a little time last week and an hour this arvo and this is what I accomplished.

The left hand inner sill where the subframe bolts up was pretty rotten, so cut it out.

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Made a new section from 50 x 75 x 3mm RHS and welded into what was left of the old section. Then positioned it correctly and welded it in.

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A bit more progress :) , now to bolt the subframe back on again and repair the floor cross member that takes the two inner legs of the subframe.

Cheers
Sam

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:36 pm
by wot179
Good stuff.

Turn the heat down just a tad on your welder.

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:52 pm
by FATBOY
Nice work Sam

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:57 pm
by Grimbo
wot179 wrote:Good stuff.

Turn the heat down just a tad on your welder.
Why is that? I always lean towards too hot rather than risk lack of penetration. In saying that I had the welder set on 6 which is the highest setting on my transmig 195, but I do suffer a bit of voltage drop as I have to run it off a lead from the house (no power in the shed). Probably should play around with it a bit more, lower setting and weld slower to get the right penetration. I'm not as well practised as I used to be.

Cheers
Sam

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:58 pm
by Grimbo
FATBOY wrote:Nice work Sam
Cheers mate.

Your alive? I thought you'd dropped of the face of the earth.

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:30 pm
by Mick
cool :thumbsup: glad to see this going forward

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:06 pm
by oldnek
SunnyTim wrote:
Grimbo wrote:
wot179 wrote:Good stuff.

Turn the heat down just a tad on your welder.
Why is that? I always lean towards too hot rather than risk lack of penetration. In saying that I had the welder set on 6 which is the highest setting on my transmig 195, but I do suffer a bit of voltage drop as I have to run it off a lead from the house (no power in the shed). Probably should play around with it a bit more, lower setting and weld slower to get the right penetration. I'm not as well practised as I used to be.

Cheers
Sam
I'm with you Sam, the more heat = the more penetration in these structural areas. Be different for panel steel as you'd be worried about distrortion

Tim
I totally agree, I wouldn't even turn it down for panel steel. Better penetration less grind clean up and distortion.(Distortion only comes from the panel shrinking after you weld and if you lay up then shrinking becomes more prevalent, only to find you have loads more grinding to do to dress it up). There's nothing worse to see weld bead layed up on a job then you grind it down to see a partion line (no penetration, no point in welding)
Those welds are pretty good Sam. Good job Mate. :thumbsup:

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:11 pm
by wot179
Have a look at your vertical welds.

They are hollow in the middle.

The filler metal is rolling down and pulling material down with it , preventing penetration as you race down to stay in front of the filler metal.

The weld will be sitting on top instead of penetrating as it should.

More heat doesnt necessarilly mean more penetration.

The plug welds look fine,its the vertical down welds that need you to modify your technique.

I suspect your gun angle is wrong,too.Dont angle it up so much,keep it closer to horizontal.

Just trying to help.

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:05 pm
by FATBOY
Still around Sam have had plenty on my slate for the last 6 plus months but still plugging away on the moon ute

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:31 am
by Grimbo
wot179 wrote:Have a look at your vertical welds.

They are hollow in the middle.

The filler metal is rolling down and pulling material down with it , preventing penetration as you race down to stay in front of the filler metal.

The weld will be sitting on top instead of penetrating as it should.

More heat doesnt necessarilly mean more penetration.

The plug welds look fine,its the vertical down welds that need you to modify your technique.

I suspect your gun angle is wrong,too.Dont angle it up so much,keep it closer to horizontal.

Just trying to help.

Thanks heaps for the feedback, I see exactly what you are saying in regards to the vertical downs. I really appreciate the advice/help.

Thanks :thumbsup:

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:04 am
by parisian62
Good n solid now :thumbsup: Keep chipping away Sam :)

Stewart

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:16 pm
by Grimbo
Way too long since last update. Haven't done to much but it's slowly moving forward.

The floor member that takes the subframe y legs was cactus the whole way across from one sill to the other. Luckily my old donor EK wagon had a reasonable one except for the passenger side. I repaired the rust, bolted the subframe up and welded it all back together and managed to do the first floor pan.

Here are the pics

What I started with.

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Floor member from donor, 3mm plates to sleeve the repair section plug welded in.

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More rust.

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Cut it out.

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3mm Flat bar repair.

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All back in.

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Floor pan.

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Cheers
Sam :)

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:31 pm
by EK JAY
nice Sam will be solid as a rock now mate :thumbsup:

Re: My FB wagon

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:00 pm
by Devilrod
Nice work Sam. :thumbsup: