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Devilrod wrote:Finny
Just means it doesn't fetch ridiculous money and if thats all you're worried about you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Wrong..................
If only.

I feel sorry for others. When somene buys lamb (and pays top dollar) they should get lamb, not mutton, with a lamb sticker on it.

I think at the end of the day it just depends how crazy you are about having a genuine one or not.

The bottom line is.. wouldn't you rather have a HK Monaro.. that isn't a genuine one.. than no HK Monaro at all?

Not if you are paying genuine money, thats what it all comes down to. You pay a premium to have the 'real' thing, so a mock up should not command the same price.

Dave.

geez, if he can get that sort of money for hk id plates, how much can i get for the set of id plates i've got in the shed for an original bucket seat sandman panel van? lol, trust ebay to bring these wankers out of the woodwork.

I know a bloke that bought a Monaro shell minus the rusted out floor for $10000, plus a set of Hk 327 id plates for $4000, sounds like he got a bargain .
Trev .

Trev wrote:A Monaro is a Monaro, there is no difference that I know of between a 161 3 spd on the tree and a Bathurst model (in the body that is), unlike the GTHO's which had extra welds in the body that you can (if you know what your looking for) tell a GT/GS body from the 200 ci models.
So as long as you have the tags, go ahead and replace the body, who's going to tell?
I am going off what I have read and been told over the years, so if I am wrong please educate me , Trev .

Well no - an 818837 body has a few body variations from the regular Monaros.The awkwardly humped trans tunnel for the four speed, the speedo hole in the firewall, the spare tyre brackets and the hump in the boot floor for the bigger diff and fuel tank. There are some other small variations as well - so far more than the GTHO has! After restoring a few of these for clients and supplying parts for the same - you get to know each model quite well. I never set out to be any sort of authority on GTS Monaros- Ive just had to build quite a few over the years.

One glaringly obvious question remains unanswered - If removing tags from one car and fitting to another is illegal - why the open trade in all the parts to rebirth vehicles? If some one wants to go about such a dubious trade in re birthing - simply buy a South African GTS which has all the right body bits the same as an 818137 GTS - except is has no tags or stampings. I'm sure there are a few that have already been through this process. I dont condone it however its a far more practical exercise than buying a rooted local 818137 GTS and swapping its ID into another local body - and trying to make it all look factory. Easier yet highly illegal.

Nope for my money I would rather stick with the other Aussie Holden icons that are more affordable and just as much fun...Like Utes... They are true Coupes!

Cheers streetneat-Andrew.

All I can say is if I was sold a monaro as a 327 GTS and found out later that it was a re badged body the person who sold it to me would have a very very bad day and prison would be my new home for many years. If it is not the actual body for those tags then don't sell as such and if you do then suffer what happens afterwards if caught.

All this re-badging sounds like a SCAM to me
You're better off buying an original standard make car and leave the rare ones to the "big dollared/no brain wankers" to fight over.

(My opinion only: and not the general view of FB/EK HOLDEN.COM).

Scotty.

Ive never understood the frenzy for certain model cars. Only a few years ago the only guys that wanted a certain model such as a monaro were the monaro guys.
The rest of the people who want one now are sheep.
To me the best cars are the one off ones especially with history. I like weird cars like My 51 Nash or my Fiat 500 racecar. Ive even got a 48 Austin mini bus (sort of like aMorris J van on steroids).
They are practically worthless but I know when you turn up somewhere with it it will get more attentioin than the lines of Monaros, 32/34 Fords and 57 chevs at car shows.

bootlegger wrote: They are practically worthless but I know when you turn up somewhere with it it will get more attentioin than the lines of Monaros, 32/34 Fords and 57 chevs at car shows.

that's what i'll love about the A40 van when it's going individuallity i've spoken to A40 enthooziasts that have never seen an A40 van (besides pictures) and the look on there faces when i tell 'em i've fitted a red holden 6 to it is worth every cent i paid for the van and quite a bit more

My point exactly why would you build something that everyone else has already had. Even some of the top show cars here are virtual copies of what we see in yank magazines.
Anyone that rebodies a car is building a fake. You can even buy now new camaro/mustang bodies and put all your stuff on it from a donor car. Is it still that car?
Get that A40 done

i personally think re-badging a non genuine car is almost like fraud, it is wrong some guy goes and buys one that has GTS badges on it and finds out its not genuine he will be pi$$3d off because he has paid 200k+ for a car thats worth 30k-50k

the reason i chose the HK Wagon because is different and they arent a common car, i would love a HK GTS but i will NEVER pay 250k for a car no matter what it is

i would rather have a car that is still stylish but is also different that not many people have such as my wagon

cheers
mike

Quite frankly anyone who would buy the high dollar sale cars would want to see the original paperwork confirming numbers match etc, and would be well advised to get an enthusiast for that model confirm its originality.

The ones that have gone for $200K + have always been confirmed providence cars. The ones that lack known history are always less.

Steve

We do a little bit of work for these blokes in braeside who specialise in &*#@ GT's , they were telling me that to authenticate an original that they send camera up all the pillars looking for telltale signs of non geniune GT color codes , repairs etc, and apparently they have disappointed a few blokes that thought they got the real deal .
Own what you can afford i reckon if you want to mock one up then go for it if its your thing , personally a good standard done well can look 10 times better with that individual touch

Speaking of GT's, most GT clubs won't accept the aussie exported, South African assembled Fairmont GT's into their clubs. Same car, slightly different name.

The aussie GT owners are worried the South African cars will devalue there's.