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Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:41 pm
by Blacky
narrowed racks are pretty common, I dont think welding the housing is a problem.
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:45 pm
by oz_ek
alwalburn@y7mail.com wrote:G'day ,
So after a bit of research I have decided to shorten a vl manual steering rack.
The plan is to shorten the steering shaft and housing by 90mm ,keeping the commodore tie rod ends and mounting it on the rear in th same position as the hr steering setup.
This makes the swivel points line up with the bottom wishbone pivots,and will clear the sump.
A mate of mine will tig the housing and cut and re tap the shaft.
Can any of you experienced modifiers see a problem with this??
Thanks Al
Will post photos and measurements as it happens.
Do the Commodore tie rod ends fit the HR steering arms or do the arms need the taper reamed?
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:19 am
by bat53retro
why shorten i've been running nonshorten comm vp p/s rack on all the conversions for the past 16 yrs
in driveing stance i have approx 5mm bump steer
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:29 am
by Cocko750
Hey bat is it only vp or does vn or earlier also fit
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:50 am
by FireKraka
Hi Bat
Do you use the unmodified commodore rack in front or behind the x member?
Regards
Neil H
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:14 pm
by Blacky
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:24 am
by bat53retro
vn vp are the same except vp has a double d connection vn has a spline
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:47 pm
by Cocko750
Sounds good bat have access to a few vn's but no vps so just make some brackets and the rest will fall into place or is there a few custom bits needed?
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:23 pm
by bat53retro
to stop bumpsteer the rack has to be mounted in the right position
with the bottom wishbones sitting level the rack has to be straight
both ways thats why i use the hq wb short arms
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:36 pm
by Cocko750
Thanks mate have all of those bits and a front end on the bench so will try and fab some brackets or should I buy some from v6conversions or elsewhere? Commodore tie rods or others
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:53 pm
by bat53retro
make my own brackets
commodore tye rod ends wont fit
unless you have access to a reamer
but TC /TD cortina do fit
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:21 pm
by Cocko750
Thanks bat just had a quick look but have you got photos of your fronts you have done ? Will have a look this weekend to see what sort of brackets are needed thanks for the help mate
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:47 pm
by oz_ek
bat53retro wrote:make my own brackets
commodore tye rod ends wont fit
unless you have access to a reamer
but TC /TD cortina do fit
That's some very handy info!.....Thanks!
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:29 pm
by Cocko750
Yep heaps of good info on here , plan on trying it out this weekend,old mate I work with could ream it to the right size for the commodore ones but will see how much the cortina bits are worth,I'd rather keep it all one model would be easy and will look at a commodore front to work out the brackets
Re: 253 into ek
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:57 am
by bat53retro
sorry the only photos i have is my setup
it is a highly modified hr front end
dont have photos of what your after
i'll try to find the templet for the bracket and post it
