subframe bolt up

EK JAY · Post by **EK JAY** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:12 pm

Hi
i had a trial fit of the sub frame on the wagon
Today and man was it a pain to get on any one
got any tips on bolting them up

do they normally just slide in or are they all
really hard to get into the right spot for bolt up

jay

mrs ratbox · Post by **mrs ratbox** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:24 pm

never really done one but i beleive they are a pain in the rrrs generally

FB MAD · Post by **FB MAD** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:53 pm

I don't think there are any real secrets to fitting them up Jay except to make sure the body is level on both planes with the subframe as you line it up.

Years of use may put the original fitment specs out of alignment making it somewhat harder I guess.

Yes, they can give you Rectal Pain!!

Devilrod · Post by **Devilrod** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:26 pm

Get at least 3 people and it goes on easy as! Well easier...

Still requires a bit of holding your tongue a certain way if you know what I mean. As terry said make sure its all roughly the same height wise to start with.

karsten · Post by **karsten** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:56 am

dont tighten a bolt till there all started ,,,,you can flex it alot with out hurting it ,poggy or pinch bars will help you twist it to line up,, and grease you elbows

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:57 am

Nascohunter on this site has made up some bullet shaped nuts that you put on the bolts that make it easy to put them through the holes and lines it up, you just knock them through then undo them and put the original nuts on, very clever I thought. The only problem is he told me about them after I had put my sub frame back on so I didn't get to use them

, Trev

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Dee · Post by **Dee** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:43 am

And old fella once told me yonks ago that if I ever took it off to make sure the firwall was treated and given a good coating of some sealer.
Don't know what to suggest, but someone will.

Dee

EK JAY · Post by **EK JAY** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:02 am

thanks for the info so far guys
the worst thing is i need to take it off again

as this was just a trail fit up
i had to rebuild the area where it bolts up to the
front corner of the sill so needed to check it was
going to fit it fits but its very tight

blue ute · Post by **blue ute** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:48 am

needed to check it was going to fit, it fits but its very tight

- every mans dream!!

FB MAD · Post by **FB MAD** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:21 pm

Yep, another good idea Karsten about not doing all the bolts up tight until they are all in and Dee, the old bloke is right,one of the hardest areas to treat and keep the rust away is where the firewall end of the inner skirts bolts up to the outer areas of the firewall.

Best to cut out any rust and treat with heaps of whatever rust preventative you choose in that area whilst subframe is off.

As is said above

, it's a pain in the arse to have to pull off again

.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:18 pm

Another thing I found a long time ago. If you have done a lot of repairs on the front of the subframes (area where the bumper bolts up too) it can pull out of shape when welded and end up twisting and being a real pain in the ass to fit also.

mrs ratbox · Post by **mrs ratbox** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:27 pm

i've been told where the dificulty lies is the subframes are loaded from the factory i.e. they have everything front cross member, engine gearbox all that stuff already bolted in place which also alters it's boltup placement

parisian62 · Post by **parisian62** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:48 pm

Hey Jay,

I'm a bit late with this one...you've probably got it worked out.

I have had to trial fit mine in order to rebuild the bottom corners too. We found it easier to bolt the top of the subframe up starting at the firewall and then the y frames lined up a lot easier...but still had a good fight on our hands though. We used a screwdriver to line up the holes and hammer to 'encourage' the bolts through...

regards
Stewart