Red motor

[emayn07]

Putting a 186 red into original ek front end, how do I go about making mounts?

Cheers


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[Errol62]

You’re going to have to fabricate something, as answered on Facebook. As I also said, SA is I think the only state where you will be able to register the car, providing you upgrade the front brakes to EJ self energising setup.


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[Blacky]

Welcome to the forum mate, it can be done easily enough but not sure if it will be legal when you are done ? Are you going to reregister the car with a red motor ? Ordinarily part of the approval process involves a disc brake balljoint front end conversion, it is possible to fit discs to a king pin front but its a lot of fiddling around. Pete Mallaby makes reproduction engine mounts that you can weld on, the usual trick is to bolt the mounts to the new engine, lower it into the car and set up exactly where you want it to be, tack the mounts in and remove the engine to fully weld.

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[emayn07]

Cheers,

I have spoken with an engineer and his told me I can get away with the drum brakes


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[Errol62]

Pete’s mounts will be too short for the original crossmember, and will need extensions welded on the bottoms.


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[emayn07]

Thinking I might get the reproduction hr mounts and go from there, but unsure. I can fabricate etc just thought I’d ask before I went ahead.


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[Blacky]

I reckon it would be easiest to start with a set of those mounts, the front of them at least will sit on the crossmember, you may need to fab up some filler pieces for the back of them. You using the original gearbox ???

[emayn07]

Not quite sure yet, it’s an auto body, and came with the original 138 (pulled down) and hydromatic. Was thinking I’d put a manual behind the 186.


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[Errol62]

Hydramatic body is a good starting point as you can fit M20 or Trimatic, and use the original tail shaft. Original crossmember is quite different shape to HR though. Sure, you can adapt Peter Mallaby’s mounts, if you really end up using original, but I would be doing some research on rego requirements first.


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[emayn07]

Thanks errol62, as I’ve said I’m aware of requirements and already spoke to an engineer. It’s a ok


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[emayn07]

I reckon it would be easiest to start with a set of those mounts, the front of them at least will sit on the crossmember, you may need to fab up some filler pieces for the back of them. You using the original gearbox ???

Thanks Blacky, much appreciated.


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[Errol62]

Thanks errol62, as I’ve said I’m aware of requirements and already spoke to an engineer. It’s a ok


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Sorry, I missed that. Sounds like a good thing. Good luck with it.


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[Errol62]

Here is a shot of the engine mounts I did on original crossmember for 186 in my FB ute. As you can see they don’t touch the sides like on the HR. Later I went to HR disc front and used Pete Mallaby’s mounts.


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[emayn07]

Don’t remember the measurement by any chance that’s actually awesome to go off. Cheers


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[Errol62]

No measurements really, just dummied up with 186 bolted to crash box and front of crank centred to the semi circular cut out in the front of the subframe. Only way to do it first off unless someone has a jig, but that would usually be for HR crossmember anyway.


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