FB Standard Wagon

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Re: FB Standard Wagon

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Thanks guys for the kind words.

Had a good couple of days.

My auto sparky came over and we wrote a list of little things to get done before taking the car to him.
More I do is less he charges me.

Got the fuse box mounted and wires slung onto the dash so it’s easy for him to start feeding it though out the car.
Layed a remaining pice of dynamat on the fire wall.
Mounted the rear indicator, reverse and number plate light sockets.
Made a battery clamp out of some angle iron too
Also retorque the head.

Had the blue boss watching over me as I did the valve adjustment.
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Re: FB Standard Wagon

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I’m considering fitting a GPS tracker but I don’t know if I’m over thinking it.

I’d like to use the car as a daily driver so that means work, shops and beach carpark and leaving it unattended.

What’s all of your thoughts on this?

Is a kill switch and club lock suffice?
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I pull the rotor button if I’m feeling nervous.

Fancy lights. Don’t get on the wrong side of that cat. It’ll box your ears sonny. Seeing that temp gun reminds me that the one you lent me doesn’t work, so got Raff to give me one for Christmas.


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GPS trackers are cheap and pretty effective, the better ones have a remote disable feature so you can switch the car off with your phone - if it gives you peace of mind its worth doing.
When you're faced with an unpleasant task that you really don't want to do, sometimes you just have to dig deep down inside and somehow find the patience to wait for someone else to do it for you.


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Drew,

Just about nobody these days knows how to drive a column-shift manual. I'm with Clay - pull the distributor rotor or the coil HT lead - and that will deter the casual. The serious thieves will take the car any way they can. Maybe this is where a GPS tracker will come in handy.

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Thanks guys.
Yes I think the same.
Bu the main issue is if someone wanted to steal the car it would be an older sleaze bag like most of us.
I can’t see a young punk actually wanting to touch it.

On another note…

My inlet manifold has a leak in the gasket, I know this as I sprayed a little brake cleaner around the gasket area and the revs fluttered.

And yes the manifolds are dog tight.

What’s your thoughts on going a double gasket with some sealant?

What type of sealant?
Different sealant on inlet and exhaust?
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Hey Drew

I use an Apple Air Tag hidden in my car. Pretty cheap but does have some limitations as it relies on having a mobile phone nearby (regardless of owner) to ID location.

In ref to your inlet manifold I can speak from experience. I would not rely on sealant. I took my manifold off and faced it with a file, straight edge and backlight. You have a mill so it will achieve a more accurate result than my work.

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Drew,

Try assembling the inlet manifold to the head without the gasket to check that nothing's binding. It may be that the locating rings bottom in their holes before the mating faces contact each other.

The other problem may be exhaust-manifold-related: if the extractors or headers have extended faces and holes to locate over the manifold studs, then a danger is that the clamps bottom on the extended webbing of the exhaust manifold, and provide little clamping force on the inlet manifold. (Way back when, I put twin Strombergs and extractors on a grey. I cut the webbing on the extractors back to the same dimensions as the stock exhaust manifold to equalize the clamping forces on both manifolds.)

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In the Shed wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:42 am Hey Drew

I use an Apple Air Tag hidden in my car. Pretty cheap but does have some limitations as it relies on having a mobile phone nearby (regardless of owner) to ID location.

In ref to your inlet manifold I can speak from experience. I would not rely on sealant. I took my manifold off and faced it with a file, straight edge and backlight. You have a mill so it will achieve a more accurate result than my work.

Stephen
Thanks Stephen, the manifold was milled flat as part of the build.
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ardiesse wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:19 pm Drew,

Try assembling the inlet manifold to the head without the gasket to check that nothing's binding. It may be that the locating rings bottom in their holes before the mating faces contact each other.

The other problem may be exhaust-manifold-related: if the extractors or headers have extended faces and holes to locate over the manifold studs, then a danger is that the clamps bottom on the extended webbing of the exhaust manifold, and provide little clamping force on the inlet manifold. (Way back when, I put twin Strombergs and extractors on a grey. I cut the webbing on the extractors back to the same dimensions as the stock exhaust manifold to equalize the clamping forces on both manifolds.)

Rob
Hi Rob.

Manifold was killed flat and checked flat against head 100%
Not using location rings, it’s been rolled pinned in place for location.
As for extractors, all things you mentioned have been done.
Extractor faces were 10mm thick and manifold faces 9.5mm thick, I made custom clamps which reflect the correct size 1/2mm off set and the clamps are thick Bisalloy plate steel so they won’t bend.

However now you mention it I noticed the extractors touching the bottom of the engine block when I was under it the other day, I wonder if this is effecting the clamping position of the manifold?

My first thought is that the manifold and extractors would clamp somewhat individually via the clamps.
You may be able to see my custom clamps if zooming in on this photo but I can’t guarantee it.

Also I did take the manifold and extractors off and reused the old gasket, maybe these 2 issues are by problem?

Will get photos of the extractors touching the engine block next time I’m ‘In the Shed’ lol
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Hi drew;
I fitted a isolation switch between the battery and the car and hidden but accessible (battery is in the tray) it's the key type where you can remove the key when isolated, only trouble is that it also isolates the remote locking when you take it out so you have to make sure that your door key will actually open the door, don't ask me how I know :wtf: :crazy: :crazy:
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Blacky wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:24 am GPS trackers are cheap and pretty effective, the better ones have a remote disable feature so you can switch the car off with your phone - if it gives you peace of mind its worth doing.
Blacky have you got a GOS until you recommend?
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FbSTDwagon wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:00 pm
Blacky wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:24 am GPS trackers are cheap and pretty effective, the better ones have a remote disable feature so you can switch the car off with your phone - if it gives you peace of mind its worth doing.
Blacky have you got a GPS unit you recommend?
Not really mate, I took one to the US with me when we picked the Chev up as we were leaving it out the front of motels for a month but that was over 10 years ago , technology has improved a lot from the thing I had way back then ..... maybe something like this ???

https://www.jaycar.com.au/4g-gps-vehicl ... r/p/LA9038
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Cheers Blacky.
I did see that at Jaycar but the battery lasts next to nothing so I’ll look for another alternative or a simple kill switch will do the job!

On another note this is the HiTec headers and how they touch on the engine block.

Also some photos of my custom clamps
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Drew,

Time for the ball-pein hammer, I think. With the extractors fouling the block like that, you run the risk of blowing the manifold gasket on the underside, where you can't see the leaks.

Rob
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