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Yes they are usually cut about three o’clock. Stanley knife.


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Errol62 wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:05 pm Yes they are usually cut about three o’clock. Stanley knife.

....... but you could probably cut them at any time of the day or night :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin:
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Blacky wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:07 pm
Errol62 wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:05 pm Yes they are usually cut about three o’clock. Stanley knife.
....... but you could probably cut them at any time of the day or night :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin:
3 o'clock is a little early to be cut. Perhaps half-cut if you started with a liquid lunch :lol:

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Blacky wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:37 pm A new stanley blade will sort that little conundrum out in no time flat. :thumbsup:
Nailed it there Blacky, pretty much what I was gonna do.

Honestly thought Rare Spares would supply a product that fits 😂!
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Harv wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:13 pm
Blacky wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:07 pm
Errol62 wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:05 pm Yes they are usually cut about three o’clock. Stanley knife.
....... but you could probably cut them at any time of the day or night :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin:
3 o'clock is a little early to be cut. Perhaps half-cut if you started with a liquid lunch :lol:

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Gday guys I hope you al had a very merry Christmas!
Been a bit quiet on the old internet from but I’ve been getting a few things done.

On the subject of castor on the drum brake front end I went a bit bananas with adjusting the tube shims to give the front end a more positive camber and to reduce the gap between the fron outrigger and the subframe.

I removed 3 mm from the front shims and added 3 mm to the rear.

As you can see the front round rubbers are very compressed and the rear ones are not so compressed.

Definitely got good positive caster now but I’m thinking the rubber may be too compressed at the front.

The rubbers can be replaced easily enough if required in the future but so you guys think I should maybe add a touch not to the tube spacers on the front to relieve the compression?

Have a look at the photo and compare front to back and you will see what I mean.

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Drew,

How many turns of the rear nuts between finger-tight and tight against the spacers?

(thinking this up as I type here . . . ) The rubbers at the rear may compress a little when the car's fully assembled and sitting on the ground. The engine's weight on the outrigger will tend to rock the crossmember down at the front - and it may happen that the upper rear rubbers may not be compressed.

If you were to make a couple of big washers out of 2 - 3 mm sheet, ID a bit less than the ID of the "brim" of the bottom rubber, OD the same as the compressed OD of the front rubbers, and insert them between the (rear) bottom rubbers and the front crossmember, you'd compress the rubbers more.

The string line says "just about vertical" to me. The uprights have built-in caster, so you should have enough positive caster even with the uprights in the middle of the adjustment range.

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Rob I couldn’t tell you exact number of turns but the front is definitely more compressed than the rear.

I think I’ll just balance it out a touch so it evens up the rubber compression a bit.

I went mental with the spacing for more positive caster to try to lift the front outrigger, which did work but as you can see it’s a bit extreme.
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Had a bit of a run doing a few other bits too…

Rebuilt the steering linkage, picked up some stock HG rims cheap, built the rear axles and also the front hubs.

Just waiting to get a diff center back for the bloke who is blurting it together for me and Brett has been kind enough to send me the long pin reamer which should be here any day now.

With the diff and king pins done I’ll be able to build the brakes and steering and get it on wheels for the first time.
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ripping through it mate , I am hoping to get some work done on the rattler this break - time will tell ....... :roll:
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Blacky wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:09 am ripping through it mate , I am hoping to get some work done on the rattler this break - time will tell ....... :roll:
It always takes longer than expected doesn’t it!
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Morning guys.

A marine grey motor has just popped up for sale locally really cheap.

I am curious about a marine motor… I know they hey big cams to keep high revs but did they also traditionally have high compression pistons too?

If so I’ll go and have a look at it.

Drew
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Could be anything Drew. When I was a kid we used to ride on the “Popeye” from Elder Park to the zoo and back. That ran a grey.

That bare rim looks like a non stock width/ offset.


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Errol62 wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:53 am
That bare rim looks like a non stock width/ offset.
YOU THINK ??????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have a marinised grey at home , it is stock as a rock inside - biggest potential issue with them is corrosion in the water jackets if it was run in a salt water environment
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Blacky wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:00 am
Errol62 wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:53 am
That bare rim looks like a non stock width/ offset.
YOU THINK ??????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have a marinised grey at home , it is stock as a rock inside - biggest potential issue with them is corrosion in the water jackets if it was run in a salt water environment
Gotcha that is a good point that I didn’t think of.
I think I’ll pass on it
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