Pushrods

[holdenutechick]

All my pushrods are FC so are too short, I'm in need of the longer FB EK size to test my grey.

[MeFB]

Good to hear that it wasn't the cam Allison

[holdenutechick]

My brother turned it by hand but it doesn't seem like the pushrods are pushing up high enough to open the valves so we want to try some longer rods.

[MeFB]

You can shoot me for mentioning the very obvious, but are the lifters definitely still there?

I haven't looked into the guts of a grey motor for a while, but if you remove the side plates and rotate the crank, you should see the upper rim of the lifters slightly poke up out of the cam gallery and then dip down again out of sight as the cam keeps rotating.

[fingers]

My brother turned it by hand but it doesn't seem like the pushrods are pushing up high enough to open the valves so we want to try some longer rods.

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[Craig Allardyce]

maybe its late pushrods combined with early lifters as per bulletin below?

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Hope this helps.

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[zl296]

good to see something in imperial...craig...

l dont like metric....

[MeFB]

You can shoot me for mentioning the very obvious, but are the lifters definitely still there?

I haven't looked into the guts of a grey motor for a while, but if you remove the side plates and rotate the crank, you should see the upper rim of the lifters slightly poke up out of the cam gallery and then dip down again out of sight as the cam keeps rotating.

The pushrods would be in the sump if that was the case
Tim

OK, so they'd just drop straight past the cam. Kinda rules out missing lifters then

[WayneXG95]

maybe its late pushrods combined with early lifters as per bulletin below?

Scroll down.
Hope this helps.

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Shit now I have to check my engine numbers.

Good catch Craig.

[MeFB]

Good catch Graig.

Nice spelling Wagne

[WayneXG95]

[MeFB]

Nothing to see here...move along...

[fingers]

You can shoot me for mentioning the very obvious, but are the lifters definitely still there?
I haven't looked into the guts of a grey motor for a while, but if you remove the side plates and rotate the crank, you should see the upper rim of the lifters slightly poke up out of the cam gallery and then dip down again out of sight as the cam keeps rotating.

The pushrods would be in the sump if that was the case
Tim

OK, so they'd just drop straight past the cam. Kinda rules out missing lifters then

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Well.... no they dont drop into the sump they wont go past the cam .....just building a grey now so I went and tried it .....however they do shorten the pushrods by about 1 inch ..wouldnt like to crank it over like that .....ouch .......FYI ............... ...Fingers

[holdenutechick]

Hmm on reading that you might be right Craig as my grey is an early grey is it before that number listed in that document so it would have the early tappets.
Our engine number is B223704
Daniel measured the pushrods with his inches ruler and all the pushrods including spare parts and they are all the same size of 10.2" (this includes the ones that came in the FC engine that came with the ute.)

[MeFB]

I know maths isn't my strong point, but isn't B223704 later than B65280, meaning that your 10.212" rods are actually correct?

Here are the different lengths:

FX/FJ - 10.305"

FE/FC & FB to B65280 - 10.4 "

FB after B65280 and EK/EJ - 10.212"

My suspicion is that it is actually the tappets that are from an earlier engine (with the longer rods). So you don't have rods from an FE/FC, you need them because you have FE/FC tappets.