Making your own braided hoses

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Making your own braided hoses

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I really, really hate flexible fuel lines. It makes my teeth hurt when I see vehicles plumbed up with long lengths of either rubber hose or braided line. Using some flexible hose though is inevitable - something has to flex between the hard lines on the body/chassis, and the engine which rotates a little as it torques. I like nice short lengths, neatly done.

The FED and a few other projects are going to need something more than rubber hose. Probably stainless braided, Teflon inner lines. I promise not to use the red and blue anodised fittings that scream 1980's street machine :mrgreen:. As far as I can see, no-one makes short lengths (around 4-6") of premade hose with AN fittings. It is all DIY from bulk hose.

I'm geared up to make hardline (straighten, cut, bend and flare) from 1/4" to 3/4" in both AN and SAE. That gear gets a lot of workout on brake and fuel lines. I also have the aviation-grade tooling to "bead" small hardline so that rubber hose can be slipped over and clamped in place. One thing I have never done though is making my own braided line.

The various hose manufacturers (Earls, Proflow, Aeroflow, Speedflow etc) have how-to information on how to make the hose up. Looks pretty simple. They also have a huge amount of tooling that is quite expensive... anything from simple hose shears to fancy aluminium vice setups, dies etc. I will make a few hoses (perhaps 40 or so over time), but I won't be doing it nearly as often as I use my other gear. If I can get away with using basic tooling I will.

Before I either:
a) send myself more insane trying to make the hoses without the right tooling, or
b) spend a small fortune on tooling I don't need
does anyone have much experience in making up their own braided lines, and if so what tooling would you recommend?

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My neighbour owns a Pirtek so I just get him to make them and he hangs them on the fence in a bag when they are done 8)

If they are going to be used in braking systems they need to be stamped with an approval number so you cant legally make your own anyway.

I guess that doesnt help a lot .............
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Personally I prefer speed flow but race works also do pretty good gear now, they are very simple to use but you need to decide which brand you are going to use as there are slight differences in hose compatibility between the brands.. all the companies make relatively affordable vice jaws and the
Spanners that you will always need as you start use in AN fittings.. I just use a 1mm cutting disc on the angle grinder with masking tape to stop the braid from fraying…


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Blacky wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:52 am My neighbour owns a Pirtek so I just get him to make them and he hangs them on the fence in a bag when they are done 8)
Lol. The neighbour is in to racing pigeons. Might not help too much on hoses :lol:
gledge wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:54 am Personally I prefer speed flow but race works also do pretty good gear now, they are very simple to use but you need to decide which brand you are going to use as there are slight differences in hose compatibility between the brands.. all the companies make relatively affordable vice jaws and the
Spanners that you will always need as you start use in AN fittings.. I just use a 1mm cutting disc on the angle grinder with masking tape to stop the braid from fraying…
Cool. I have the aluminium spanners from doing AN hardlines, and grinder (for making my welding look professional... a grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't :mrgreen: ).

Looks like I may only need a new set of softjaws.

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Amazing coincidence. Opened this up while sitting in at Pirtek Fyshwick getting a braided clutch hose made. Sorry Harv, it's full length master to hydraulic throwout bearing.

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I'm a Raceworks distributor & based at Auburn, I make these all the time.

One thing to keep in mind is that brake hoses for street registered road cars, regardless of whether they are factory-style rubber or braided must have crimped ends. The ones which are made using removable AN fittings are not street legal.

As mention above, aftermarket braided hoses must also have the engineering approval number stamped on them.

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Brett027 wrote:Amazing coincidence. Opened this up while sitting in at Pirtek Fyshwick getting a braided clutch hose made. Sorry Harv, it's full length master to hydraulic throwout bearing.

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My bad. Should have mentioned that I am interested in making up braided lines for anything other than brakes.

Truth be known, I prefer the crimped-end rubber hoses for brakes… and no need for flexible brake lines on the FED 8)

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$100 made up Clay. It's same as the Mal Woods bearing hoses but with a clearish plastic coating over the brades. Just lazy me really as I have the gear to make pipe one but was looking for a different look.
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You better hit someone up for a race works book Harv they Come in very handy


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Sounds good Brett, not lazy mentally. There is a guy local that makes up seedpro I think. Glen will know. Not cheap I hear. Pirtek sound a good option.

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Hi Harv,

Motorsport connections in Seven Hills is where I go.

Good quality, I have tried other makes and I am happiest with them.

There are also different hose types and different fittings, so they need to be matched.

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Good advice, and thanks all.

Ended up going with Speedflow hose and fittings. Parcel arrived with -6, -8 and -10 gear, and looks good. I had forgotten how good (and quick) their customer service is. Fitup process is pretty simple provided I take my time.

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Top shelf good choice


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