matty martin... needs advice, ASAP...

mattymartin · Post by **mattymartin** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:14 am

hey guys ...

whats do these holden 186 triple dellorto's usually sell for...

Item number: 220126658407 on www.ebay.com.au

sound like alot of moola... but i dont know what it usually worth... let me know ASAP as the auction ends in 11hrs...

thanks everyone

mattymartin

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:29 am

Matty, unsure of comparitive costs but throw in cost of linkages and initial set up and it is a lot of coin and fire wall clearance is an issue

Mephious · Post by **Mephious** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:38 am

Sorry for the delay - was on the turps last night watching the NRL.

All triple webbers I have seen for sale range roughly from $1000-$1500, the $1500 set was all polished nice fuel lines/linkages etc.

Delortos however dont come along often only know of one set which sold for $1250. They rarely go for sale as it doesnt get much better for natural asp then those.

Next step from them is Supercharger or Injection/turbo ... all = headache/exspensive

smooth · Post by **smooth** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:12 pm

Not a hope in hell getting triple Weber's or Dellorto's into a FB-EK engine bay with air cleaners. You will struggle with just getting the carbies in there.

When I was selling them in the shop, I sold 10 to 1 sets of Dellorto's over Weber's.

Regards, Smooth

mattymartin · Post by **mattymartin** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:29 am

thanks for the reply team,

hey trev & nomad WHERE ARE YOU...

in your experience...
is there a set up that you could recommend for someone looking for a engine which gives the old girl a bit of bite, yet still does'nt burn a hole in my pocket with fuel prices going, going, going up...

i dont mine spending a bit up front if it'll save me down the track...
so far my thoughts are...

TREV SAID, 186 with mods, in his experience the efi 202 was much thirstier than his current 186 with mod's + holley...

this a photo i took at the 2007 ek nats @ forbes, the car is the GSAC off white wagon with the red roof (looks like devilrods)

NoMAD SAID (alot, but basically), efi 202 (to deal with my concern of unleaded fuel and more grunt), 186 with mods (as this is a much cheaper option as there is a budget of around $2000. or v6 (which headded that it was the best answer for power & economy, but also said that it would cost alot more upfront...

matty martin

mattymartin · Post by **mattymartin** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:31 am

thanks for the reply team,

hey trev & nomad WHERE ARE YOU...

in your experience...
is there a set up that you could recommend for someone looking for a engine which gives the old girl a bit of bite, yet still does'nt burn a hole in my pocket with fuel prices going, going, going up...

i dont mine spending a bit up front if it'll save me down the track...
so far my thoughts are...

TREV SAID, 186 with mods, in his experience the efi 202 was much thirstier than his current 186 with mod's + holley...

this a photo i took at the 2007 ek nats @ forbes, the car is the GSAC off white wagon with the red roof (looks like devilrods)

NoMAD SAID (alot, but basically), efi 202 (to deal with my concern of unleaded fuel and more grunt), 186 with mods (as this is a much cheaper option as there is a budget of around $2000. or v6 (which headded that it was the best answer for power & economy, but also said that it would cost alot more upfront...

matty martin

NoMAD · Post by **NoMAD** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:26 am

G'day mate first of all i'm in Perth, so a hell of a long way away....

i was planning on getting back to you this morning...

as smooth has said from what i've seen the tripples would need more firewall mods than my turbo!

matty it all comes down to what you want....your wagon's got a theme going with it are you trying to continue that through out the car including the engine bay, or just on the outside?

As i've already said to you i'm not a EFI based person, i prefer carbys - compared to other motors, red's can be set up decently - cheaply!

If you can't afford the V6 transplant, i would suggest the best option would be sticking with the 186, maybe even source another motor/block while yours is in the car so you dont have to take it off the road,

would go for -
no engine fan and not orginal air cleaner
electronic dizzy off a blue motor and good leads!
extractors, cam, good set of timing gears
yella terra head, valves, roller rockers (if can be obtained within budjet) head setup for unleaded,
and for a carby choice (from my experience) a set of twin's (either stroms or SU's) if tuned correctly sound and perform awesome....

now other people may have different opinions but this has worked for me, i haven't done all these mods to the one engine - all though my turbo one will be close when its done!

anybody want to change or add to anything i've suggested?

Cheers
NoMAD

Devilrod · Post by **Devilrod** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:54 am

Also if you want the performance and have upped the anti on the engine specs. But don't want the hassle of multi carbs. A 4 barrel is a better way to go. They give some reasonable economy IF you keep your foot out of it and run around on the primaries and tuning wise is alot simpler. But we are talking about an Xu1 spec type red or greater.

mrs ratbox · Post by **mrs ratbox** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:59 pm

i was gunna mention the four barrel holley
i had a set of twin su's once, to me they were a pain in the arse could get great down low and nothing up top or the other way round couldn't get anything in between

put a four barrel on and the car went better than it ever did

but that's not saying they can't be made to run well

something else to consider the jap supercharger setups never had one but spoken to people who have they say drive normal no excess fuel or anything, but if you want power stand on it and it's there

mattymartin · Post by **mattymartin** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:33 pm

the jury's has come back...

the 186 that i have now will get...

1.loose the original engine fan get thermo's
2.electronic dizzy & some good plugs & leads
3.extractors
4.head setup for unleaded (will get price & decide then)
5.four barrel holley new air cleaner
6.lumpy cam

then i'll check how the budget is running for the (yella terra head, valves, roller rockers)

i'll let you know what going on more when it happens... hoping for around november / december...

matty martin

Devilrod · Post by **Devilrod** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:43 pm

MAybe hit some swap meets and try and pick up a Edelbrock 4 barrel 500cfm. The bonus with these are one gasket, easy to jet and smaller primary's than running a 350 holley. Which eqautes to reasonable economy when driven sensibly. Or look for a Carter or qjet, these were recommend by Quick 6 in Dandenong years ago and these guys specialised in the holden 6.

What gearbox are you running behind the red?

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matty martin... needs advice, ASAP...

matty martin... needs advice, ASAP...

matty....

thanks team