Harv's FED thread

Post by **Blacky** » Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:34 pm

looking forward to seeing this come together - lots of pics please ......

BS · Post by BS » Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:38 pm

Harv wrote:If I’m home from work, I’ll be there. Fingers crossed for the FED. Unsure if I could run the wagon. Be great seeing some HAMBstrs run. Wonder if Spanners is coming?

Cheers,
Harv

I’m sure we can twist his arm. I have mentioned it to him is discussions. He was going to come up for the May nostalgia fest at Willowbank which has since been canned.

I bet you’re excited for your special delivery. Did Galloway do all the work including the head?

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Harv · Post by **Harv** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:01 pm

BS wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:38 pm
Harv wrote:If I’m home from work, I’ll be there. Fingers crossed for the FED. Unsure if I could run the wagon. Be great seeing some HAMBstrs run. Wonder if Spanners is coming?

Cheers,
Harv
I’m sure we can twist his arm. I have mentioned it to him is discussions. He was going to come up for the May nostalgia fest at Willowbank which has since been canned.

I bet you’re excited for your special delivery. Did Galloway do all the work including the head?

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3 days to Christmas

HSD did the head. Intended for Galloway to o-ring the head and the blocl so sent the head over to WA. Not enough clearance to get the o-ring in, so they only grooved the block to set the o-ring (no receiver groove).

Cheers,
Harv

Dr Terry · Post by **Dr Terry** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:17 pm

Harv wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:01 pm
HSD did the head. Intended for Galloway to o-ring the head and the blocl so sent the head over to WA. Not enough clearance to get the o-ring in, so they only grooved the block to set the o-ring (no receiver groove).

Cheers,
Harv

We had a 350 SBC V8 Monaro at the old Castlereagh strip & ran o-ringed block, solid copper head gaskets & a flat faced head. We ran consistent low 10 secs (not bad for an SS/AA car in 1983-84) & used NOS for the whole 1/4 mile. Never had a head gasket issue.

Dr Terry

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:52 am

Thanks Terry.

The FED will probably only see 15psi max of boost pressure, so should be OK without a receiver ring.

It will run in Modified, so will need to be quicker than 10.99. I only know of one grey that has ever run the quarter that quick (Dennis Paul's Resurrection E/dragster FED, 27th of January 1980 at SPIR ran 10.83s). Suspect it will be a fair journey for me to get it to run that quick, but the fun will be in the trying. Modified will let me run nitrous, but not on a blown motor.

Cheers,
Harv

Dr Terry · Post by **Dr Terry** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:01 am

Harv wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:52 amModified will let me run nitrous, but not on a blown motor

Is that right. When we raced, super sedan & modified had the same basic engine rules. If you had a supercharger, a turbocharger or nitrous that put you into AA, BB or CC. But you could run any combination of those. We had guys running turbos over a supercharger & nitrous on a turbo etc.etc.

Sounds like rules have changed over time.

Dr Terry

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:04 am

Australian drag racing rules are worse than engineering a car

. Smokey Yunick would have a field day.

In theory, Eastern Creek is an IHRA track. It runs the IHRA rulebook:
https://www.ihraracer.com/competition/rulebook/

... but then adds it's own IHRA Australia rules on top of that:
https://www.ihra.com.au/IHRA_Australia_ ... ations.pdf

It also caters for the ANDRA certified cars that come from interstate, using these rules:
https://www.andra.com.au/wp-content/upl ... 220206.pdf

The guidance has been written accumulatively over years, and does not read intuitively. My education is OK, but I struggle with it.

You then get to talk to a tech inspector, who has views on what can and cannot be done. They are nice blokes, and try to help you get your head around what is written in the above guidance.

ANDRA is perhaps the easiest to read if you want a "need to build a car to this class, what must I do" answer. They are pretty blunt:
Supercharging, Turbocharging or Nitrous Oxide injection is permitted in Modified Eliminator. In Modified Eliminator Turbocharged vehicles are permitted to also use Nitrous Oxide injection, however Supercharged vehicles are not.

My memory says the IHRA rules say the similar, but prohibit giggle gas on both supercharged AND turbo vehicles. I can't find the original IRHA guidance (need to look some more), but the IHRA Australia guidance talks to it and gives a little more leeway:
If turbocharged, then using Nitrous oxide injection. Allowed

For my Norman-blown motor, no blower-in-a-bottle unless I can convince a tech inspector otherwise.

Cheers,
Harv

Post by **Blacky** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:43 pm

Its not a blower it's a "belt driven turbocharger"

Dr Terry · Post by **Dr Terry** » Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:07 am

You're right Harv, Smokey Yunick would have a field day.

Dr Terry

Post by **Blacky** » Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:23 pm

Saw this pic on bookface today - looks sexy/expensive

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Harv · Post by **Harv** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:47 am

Not mine, but I suspect very similar.

Sitting by the front door today waiting for the courier. Sometime between 9 and 5.

Cheers,
Harv

Errol62 · Post by **Errol62** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:10 am

Hell yeah!

FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie

FireKraka · Post by **FireKraka** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:10 pm

Man check the size of those main bearing caps, must be trying to push a whole stamped of ponies through there.

briby · Post by **briby** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:03 pm

Guess that's the best way to make up for the lack of more said caps. But it sure looks great.

Harv · Post by **Harv** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:16 pm

Santa came this afternoon.

Managed to get it unboxed, and trundled down the driveway without having to move (or hit) the Camira, Torana, Commodore, Cortina or boat. Box all demolished, and a quick check of what's here. There is a story to each that I'll share as I put it together. No engine photo till tomorrow - it's still in plastic, and I need Number One Son to give me a lift to get it onto an engine stand (as his VL is parked under the lifting pad eye).