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Hi - have stolen all these as well.............
Did Brisbane have trams?
I spot a volksie - along with a Chrysler Royal............ I am guessing this is '57 - '59 - what year did we get "beetles".......... most moder Holden I can see is either FE or FC - by the reg on the FE - NDD 714 it probably is Bris.......... but trams............. must have found a void in my rail knowledge here - or course, this could be a Qld car on holiday - I don't know Bris well enough to say where it is...... nothing fits for Melb............ hill is in wrong spot and there's a great factory belching smoke were the Treasury building is supposed to be.............. that has been up there since the turn of last century........ someone will know - trams in Bris.......... I know Sydney had them, and Adelaide................
frats,
Rosco
Did Brisbane have trams?
I spot a volksie - along with a Chrysler Royal............ I am guessing this is '57 - '59 - what year did we get "beetles".......... most moder Holden I can see is either FE or FC - by the reg on the FE - NDD 714 it probably is Bris.......... but trams............. must have found a void in my rail knowledge here - or course, this could be a Qld car on holiday - I don't know Bris well enough to say where it is...... nothing fits for Melb............ hill is in wrong spot and there's a great factory belching smoke were the Treasury building is supposed to be.............. that has been up there since the turn of last century........ someone will know - trams in Bris.......... I know Sydney had them, and Adelaide................
frats,
Rosco
Thanks Tim,
guess someone is going to the technical library this week to update his collection of rail stuff........... had no idea........
If you look deep along the track - you can make out the time-exposure showing the side lights of the tram................
thanks for this, all very good for me....... bit of a "round-head" as well as a car "nut" ............. don't fall off your perches - I have more rail material and have done more work on rail than cars.............. Ratbox - this has been my life............... before you ask........... along with the "historical" society, coastguard, and - stop it, I'm digging a hole.................
frats,
Rosco
guess someone is going to the technical library this week to update his collection of rail stuff........... had no idea........
If you look deep along the track - you can make out the time-exposure showing the side lights of the tram................
thanks for this, all very good for me....... bit of a "round-head" as well as a car "nut" ............. don't fall off your perches - I have more rail material and have done more work on rail than cars.............. Ratbox - this has been my life............... before you ask........... along with the "historical" society, coastguard, and - stop it, I'm digging a hole.................
frats,
Rosco
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Trams
For those not interested in the "Tram" angle in this thread....... go to next post........
For everyone else who decides to read my prattle................
"Listennnn very carefully - I shall say this only wunce".............
Did some preliminary research today.......
All major state capital cities had trams................
Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth and Hobart.........
Brisbane trams were 600 v DC - some were air braked, some purely by hand.
They ran on 4' 8 1/2" gauge. There was a great fire in 68/69 which did substantial damage to network services.
There is a book titled "Destination Valley" which apparently gives a very good account of the Brisbane system.....
Sydney had trams from 1889 (electrified) and lasted until 1961.
There is apparently a renewed street tramway again in use and is built over its predecessor......
Sydney had multiple-unit trams - as did Adelaide.
Adelaide had trams - the Glenelg line is still running - the original Bay cars (1929) ceased in 2004/5
Melbourne of course still has it's tram network (Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramway Board aka MMTB
- however the first electric tram in Australia ran from Box Hill to the Doncaster "Tower" and we adopted it as our motif of the Historical Society of which I am a life member (and Ratbox - you will remember, treasurer at age 15 - 18)
Melbourne in fact had a second tram network - ran by the Victorian Railways............. there were two separate lines
- from St. Kilda to Brighton Beach - it was 5' 3" gauge and ceased in 1958/9
The other VR line ran from Sandringham to Black Rock and later Beaumauris - it closed in 1956 - this one had a gauge of 4' 8 1/2" so ironically not only did we have a break of gauge on our railway but also on the tram network........
The 5' 3" gauge is the Irish gauge - the 4' 8 1/2 the English and Scottish gauge........
(if anyone is interested, I have "written" a "novel" on this - it's very detailed but tells the accurate story as recorded by parliaments both state and federal.......
It's in word format and also expands into some of my personal experience and some deatils of the "Aurora" head on at Violet Town in 1969...... pm me and I'll send the "word" document..... it's a big read, be warned!)
Perth had trams - 3' 6" gauge - services ceased in either the 50's or 60's.
Hobart had trams - as too did Launceston - they were 3' 6" gauge.
Provincial cities.......
Newcastle had trams - originally steam hauled with carriages then later electric - 600 v DC and running on 4' 8 1/2" gauge.
Victoria - Ballarat, Bendigo and Geelong all had 4' 8 1/2" gauge trams - all 600 v DC.......
For further information - chase up the "Destination" series tram books.....
or
look up TDU - Trams Down Under on the web..................
hope the read was worth the effort - I have "saved" this research for another of my history related interests.....
frats,
Rosco
For everyone else who decides to read my prattle................
"Listennnn very carefully - I shall say this only wunce".............
Did some preliminary research today.......
All major state capital cities had trams................
Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth and Hobart.........
Brisbane trams were 600 v DC - some were air braked, some purely by hand.
They ran on 4' 8 1/2" gauge. There was a great fire in 68/69 which did substantial damage to network services.
There is a book titled "Destination Valley" which apparently gives a very good account of the Brisbane system.....
Sydney had trams from 1889 (electrified) and lasted until 1961.
There is apparently a renewed street tramway again in use and is built over its predecessor......
Sydney had multiple-unit trams - as did Adelaide.
Adelaide had trams - the Glenelg line is still running - the original Bay cars (1929) ceased in 2004/5
Melbourne of course still has it's tram network (Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramway Board aka MMTB
- however the first electric tram in Australia ran from Box Hill to the Doncaster "Tower" and we adopted it as our motif of the Historical Society of which I am a life member (and Ratbox - you will remember, treasurer at age 15 - 18)
Melbourne in fact had a second tram network - ran by the Victorian Railways............. there were two separate lines
- from St. Kilda to Brighton Beach - it was 5' 3" gauge and ceased in 1958/9
The other VR line ran from Sandringham to Black Rock and later Beaumauris - it closed in 1956 - this one had a gauge of 4' 8 1/2" so ironically not only did we have a break of gauge on our railway but also on the tram network........
The 5' 3" gauge is the Irish gauge - the 4' 8 1/2 the English and Scottish gauge........
(if anyone is interested, I have "written" a "novel" on this - it's very detailed but tells the accurate story as recorded by parliaments both state and federal.......
It's in word format and also expands into some of my personal experience and some deatils of the "Aurora" head on at Violet Town in 1969...... pm me and I'll send the "word" document..... it's a big read, be warned!)
Perth had trams - 3' 6" gauge - services ceased in either the 50's or 60's.
Hobart had trams - as too did Launceston - they were 3' 6" gauge.
Provincial cities.......
Newcastle had trams - originally steam hauled with carriages then later electric - 600 v DC and running on 4' 8 1/2" gauge.
Victoria - Ballarat, Bendigo and Geelong all had 4' 8 1/2" gauge trams - all 600 v DC.......
For further information - chase up the "Destination" series tram books.....
or
look up TDU - Trams Down Under on the web..................
hope the read was worth the effort - I have "saved" this research for another of my history related interests.....
frats,
Rosco
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I remember the newspaper ads and TV ads for Mcleod,Kelso and Lee Holden in Newcastle 
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I still remember one of their TV ads in the '70's very clearly.
The ad was based on their sales motto at the time.
"We'll trade in any old bomb"
Showed old cars ( even old for the time) rolling down a gentle slope and blowing up with real explosives.
Hence they were "old bombs"...... and they were actually blown up!!
There were Austins,Morris,early '60's Fords,early valiants,'50s holdens and unfortunatley an EK wagon and an FB sedan
among some other makes that I can't remember.
All were blown up.
.I still remember one of their TV ads in the '70's very clearly.
The ad was based on their sales motto at the time.
"We'll trade in any old bomb"
Showed old cars ( even old for the time) rolling down a gentle slope and blowing up with real explosives.
Hence they were "old bombs"...... and they were actually blown up!!
There were Austins,Morris,early '60's Fords,early valiants,'50s holdens and unfortunatley an EK wagon and an FB sedan
among some other makes that I can't remember.All were blown up.
I can't think what to write here so this will do.
Here are a couple of my old favourites.....
Heldon Motors (can't remember the exact suburb, but in Sydney somewhere I think) - out front....
and inside...
And these next couple are out the back of the Pagewood assembly plant in Sydney.... I guess they're waiting to be loaded for distribution....
Plus a couple of extras just for the fun of it
...
Cheers
Les....
Heldon Motors (can't remember the exact suburb, but in Sydney somewhere I think) - out front....
and inside...
And these next couple are out the back of the Pagewood assembly plant in Sydney.... I guess they're waiting to be loaded for distribution....
Plus a couple of extras just for the fun of it
...Cheers
Les....
