, Trev 
.Starting a reco engine
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lunatic leprechaun
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Your engine will be tight as I said before and your starter probably old and worn a bit which won't help either.
Give your battery a good long overnight charge and see how it goes.Jumper leads can help but they have to be big amp leads to be of any assistance and they are only a back up power source to give the existing battery a help along.
You may also find that the current draw to the starter will not leave much for a spark so it may be best to run a battery for the starter alone and a separate battery for the coil so it doesn't have any voltage drop due to the power drain.
You could also run 12 volts to the coil and run the starter briefly on 24 volts if you have access to another battery.make sure they are on separate circuits though because 24 volts on a 12 volt coil won't do it any good if it doesn't stuff it completely.
The starters will run on 24 volts and it really gets them going along but they heat up quick so at 24 volts I'd be doing it only for a short period of time.
I had to get Billy Blackarrows 305 chev going on 24 volts as the starter I had was too sluggish on 12 volts alone.
Or, if it is a manual gearbox you could try tow starting it in say 2nd gear.I've tow started many cars that had new engines and wouldn't wind over quick enough on the starter.Once they run for a while they loosen up enough for the starter to start them from then on.
Some old autos can also be tow started if the pump is tailshaft driven but ( from memory ?? ) I think the Hydramatic didn't have a tailshft driven pump in the transmission.
You'll get it going eventually, its' frustrating I know when you are so close and all it needs is to turn over fast enough to start.
Give your battery a good long overnight charge and see how it goes.Jumper leads can help but they have to be big amp leads to be of any assistance and they are only a back up power source to give the existing battery a help along.
You may also find that the current draw to the starter will not leave much for a spark so it may be best to run a battery for the starter alone and a separate battery for the coil so it doesn't have any voltage drop due to the power drain.
You could also run 12 volts to the coil and run the starter briefly on 24 volts if you have access to another battery.make sure they are on separate circuits though because 24 volts on a 12 volt coil won't do it any good if it doesn't stuff it completely.
The starters will run on 24 volts and it really gets them going along but they heat up quick so at 24 volts I'd be doing it only for a short period of time.
I had to get Billy Blackarrows 305 chev going on 24 volts as the starter I had was too sluggish on 12 volts alone.
Or, if it is a manual gearbox you could try tow starting it in say 2nd gear.I've tow started many cars that had new engines and wouldn't wind over quick enough on the starter.Once they run for a while they loosen up enough for the starter to start them from then on.
Some old autos can also be tow started if the pump is tailshaft driven but ( from memory ?? ) I think the Hydramatic didn't have a tailshft driven pump in the transmission.
You'll get it going eventually, its' frustrating I know when you are so close and all it needs is to turn over fast enough to start.
I can't think what to write here so this will do.
Thanks for your advice FB Mad. Tried hooking up the jumper leads to assist the battery, but still no joy. I had to walk away from the engine today to contain my frustration 
I will get there eventually...I think the tow start could be required. 
Jim I Think the colour is REEF GREEN. Code on my ID plate reads 585-9903
I will get there eventually...I think the tow start could be required. Jim I Think the colour is REEF GREEN. Code on my ID plate reads 585-9903
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Trev I noticed the same with my fuel pump. I'm sure some would argue its not particularly good for your health, but i removed the fuel line up at the carbi and used it like a straw to draw fuel into the fuel pump. I stopped when the bowl was full, to avoid having a drink!
Just figured this would give it a bit of a head start.
Just figured this would give it a bit of a head start.
Gday TrevTrev wrote:Got mine running today, for about 5 seconds
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The thing I am puzzled about is the fuel pump is not sucking the petrol up, any tips? Trev
When I went to start mine for the first time I had the same problem.
The fuel has a long way to travel to even reach the fuel pump.
What I did was to undo the flexable hose of the delivery pipe from the tank,
then wrapped my lips around the fuel filler pipe on the rear of the car,
and blew through the fuel filler until fuel appeared there.
Then I reconnected the flexable line, and tried to start it again.
Still wouldn't start.
Blew again into the tank, and found fuel coming out through the side of the braided flexable line.
Replaced the flexable with a temporary piece of hose, and the car soon started.
Cheers
Jeff
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mrs ratbox
Thommo wrote:Gday TrevTrev wrote:Got mine running today
The thing I am puzzled about is the fuel pump is not sucking the petrol up
When I went to start mine for the first time I had the same problem.
The fuel has a long way to travel to even reach the fuel pump.
What I did was to undo the flexable hose of the delivery pipe from the tank,
then wrapped my lips around the fuel filler pipe on the rear of the car,
and blew through the fuel filler until fuel appeared there.
Then I reconnected the flexable line, and tried to start it again.
Still wouldn't start.
Blew again into the tank, and found fuel coming out through the side of the braided flexable line.
Replaced the flexable with a temporary piece of hose, and the car soon started.
Cheers
Jeff
Yep, the flexible fuel line can be a culprit when it comes to non priming fuel pump and it is one of the first things I look for.If it has a hole it would rather suck air than suck fuel.You could assist the priming of the fuel pump ( and your sensitive lips Thommo
) by wrapping cloth around the fuel tank filler neck and pressurise the tank with an air blower and compressed air.This will force fuel under compressed air pressure into the fuel pump and up to the carby/carbys.It will also find a leak in the tank line to fuel pump flexible hose if there is a hole in it.I can't think what to write here so this will do.
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