WA Rego stuff

feute · Post by **feute** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:40 pm

G,dat Fellas

I have just gone through enineering and pits inspection for my FC Sedan

I know there has been some discussion on this here so I thought I could add to what goes now.

I had my engineer write a letter to say in his opinion 7" rims were ok because the car was pre adr and made the car safer and brake better etc.
This was discussed with senior inspector as they dont seem to be on the ball with the changes. After some phone calls to Welshpool DPI this was the outcome

DPI and also the pit inspection will not alow 7' rims under any conditions...however they will be leniant on track and have allowed 225 tyres on 6" rims
They will not allow different size rim width front and rear...must be the same rim and tyre all round

My engineer was the same one that Chopped had so thats how fast things have changed. Anyone thinking about the rim and tyre issue may want to get hold of the senior modification man at Welshpool as he is the one that will say yes or no

I have a 6 cyl with a trimatic and 9" so I cant speak for any V6 or V8 conversions

Hope this helps
Gary

(AUST)Mod · Post by **(AUST)Mod** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:48 pm

What a joke!

Another thing they can TRY to defect me for

I have 15x6 with 185s and 15x7 with 205s.

It seems that when my Dad with grey hair wearing a suit goes down, they will pass anything

kelleigh54 · Post by **kelleigh54** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:03 pm

And they fiddled with their dicks as rome burnt.

This is from my original posting last year on the same topic.

http://www.fbekholden.com/forum/viewtop ... highlight=

As mentioned before, rim size’s are an issue but they have admitted it need’s to be addressed, as 1.3 times original size is pitiful if under 5.5 inches.

Vehicle track is another issue they will not budge on. Manufacturers track plus 25mm and that’s it, regardless of suspension design.

The rules are being changed on a regular basis and without any info as to what is happening, we are watching our future of the modified vehicle being eroded away with out any concern.

“I cannot emphasise how serious this is.” If your planning a build in a year or two you may be surprised on what you will be allowed.

Leniency in track is only 25mm over track and jack shit under track.
What the hell is it going to take to wake you people up before its all too late!

I make no apologies for my bluntness. For your own sake, Please, tune in before its too late, in some cases it already is.

HPaddict · Post by **HPaddict** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:59 am

feute wrote:G,dat Fellas

I have just gone through enineering and pits inspection for my FC Sedan

I know there has been some discussion on this here so I thought I could add to what goes now.

I had my engineer write a letter to say in his opinion 7" rims were ok because the car was pre adr and made the car safer and brake better etc.
This was discussed with senior inspector as they dont seem to be on the ball with the changes. After some phone calls to Welshpool DPI this was the outcome

DPI and also the pit inspection will not alow 7' rims under any conditions...however they will be leniant on track and have allowed 225 tyres on 6" rims
They will not allow different size rim width front and rear...must be the same rim and tyre all round

My engineer was the same one that Chopped had so thats how fast things have changed. Anyone thinking about the rim and tyre issue may want to get hold of the senior modification man at Welshpool as he is the one that will say yes or no

I have a 6 cyl with a trimatic and 9" so I cant speak for any V6 or V8 conversions

Hope this helps
Gary

really? no shit! everyone has their head up their a#se. we were warning this was going to happen, c'mon people lets get something happening now, before its all too late. or you can drive a std comadore or hyundia, its your choice? leigh and myself cant do it on our own, lets get serious

Cal · Post by **Cal** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:55 am

I don't know what the law is over in WA, but in NSW if the vehicle is heavily modified and registerd as a "home built" car rather than the model it came out of the factory as, I don't think wheel size is an issue as long as the engineer has approved it........and the RTA is satisfied with it.

I've had mates who've built some pretty out there cars over the years, and these things have had full compliance. I admit on some it was a pain in the ass to get them passed, but if someone is going to throw a 308 into a Gemini you'd want to make sure it's done properly.

It may have changed, as I'm going back a few years.

It's a double edged sword. I have sympathy for feute over a simple thing like slightly wider wheels.

I do though have little sympathy for people who throw a V8 with a 6-71 blower, massive tubs, etc... on something like an LJ Torana and then cry foul when they cop a nice juicy defect sticker.

Mind you, it's probably still registered as a 173......

CHOPPED · Post by **CHOPPED** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:31 pm

fu%^k me that is amazing gary dan did my engineer work and all though we did every thing leagle the car absolutly breezed through rego now for those of you who have seen my ute i would say the engineering side of it is fairly radical ie stainless 4 bar and pan hrad rear end adj coil overs shortened 9 inch 15 x 8s and 15 x 6s commerdoore disks all round not to mention the chopp and 3 quater chassis as discussed with liegh had i try and rego this now i would have no chance and by the way my ute was regoed only back in feb 05 again this shows how serious this issue is am currently in conversation with liege about meeting with the right people about getting an established code so we can continue building theses sorts of cars leagly

kelleigh54 · Post by **kelleigh54** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:03 pm

Cal, our laws are quite different, W.A, Tasmania and S.A run under the same regs to my understanding. There is no "home built" or any other scenarios, if the vehicle in question has been fitted with I.D tags, then it remains that particular vehicle. It cannot be built as an individually constructed vehicle (ICV) and it must adhere to all rules and regs applicable to that particular vehicle. Hence, Holdens pre HK have 4 and a half inch rim size x 1.3 = 5.85 inches. For example HSV 10 inch x 1.3 = 13 inches, where is the sanity in all this. Our tax dollars are paying for these clowns to ruin a country which once had common sense. Our diggers would turn in their graves to see the way minority groups are killing the country they gave their lives for.

What the hell, let the cyclists have their 40 km limit, I'll stay at home and play bridge.

Cal · Post by **Cal** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:14 pm

I can see your point about the wheel issue........

It's a bit of a joke that a Commodore, going off what's offered on HSV's, can have such wide wheels whilst a car that begins life with pizza cutters is somewhat disadvantaged

I'm presuming insurance is tied in with what the relevant state reg's are, coz if it's not there's nothing stopping someone passing the car with wheels that comply, then go home and put the wider ones on.

I had an XB Falcon that I had put 10 inch wheels on (illegal). I was constantly defected for it. I'd go home, put the stockers on, get the defect off and then put the wide ones back on. The cops got fed up and just let me be after a while.

I know it's not the way it should be, and the laws should reflect that, but there are ways around it.

HPaddict · Post by **HPaddict** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:22 pm

the downside to changing your wheels back after inspections is that your insurance company can void your insurance policy in the event of an accident, which really makes your insurance not such good value in the end.

Cal · Post by **Cal** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:32 pm

Not if you change rims before the insurance assessor comes out

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